Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. Toneloc

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    yea, we have to do something to force their hand now. if they are under the impression the deal won't change six months from now, then there is no motivation to push this deal through before the deadline -- which is why we need an unbelievable package, aka the farm and picks...

    we simply cannot let this opportunity slip away. no more potential, youth, picks, yada yada... huge fork in the road for this organization and parties involved.
     
    Toneloc, Jan 29, 2019
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  2. abeer3

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    so the press believes that:

    siakam and anunoby

    or

    just jamal murray

    is better than all of our youth comined now?

    seriously? because those are the packages that NO *should* take instead of la's "everything" offer. that is, if they don't do the wisest thing ever and wait until boston bends them over in july.

    don't take the lakers' offer because the C Bags *might* offer tatum later, the knicks *might* win the lotto and then *might* be willing to trade zion for davis. or philadelphia *might* win the lotto. i mean, the kings are 2 games out of the playoffs and slated to pick 14th or something, but yeah, sounds like a good gamble.

    lots of this nonsense here:

    https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/...-davis-trade-pros-cons-pelicans-lakers-C Bags
     
    abeer3, Jan 29, 2019
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    AD and Klutch have been handling the announcement part somewhat professionally. To get this done though they have to get a little dirty. Do what PG and Kawhi didn’t do, say its Lakers and only Lakers.
     
    alam1108, Jan 29, 2019
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    Don’t even listen to Windy and Beck on the Lowe Podcast, according to them we’d have to give up everyone but teams like Chicago just need to offer up Lauri and Carter Jr. Or Clippers just Shai.
     
    alam1108, Jan 29, 2019
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    it's funny--i'm considered the resident negative nellie on our youth, but the press is WAY ahead of me. siakam and murray are better than all of our guys combined? gilgeous alexander isn't better than any single one of them, btw.
     
    abeer3, Jan 29, 2019
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    Why are the Pelicans assuming that our offer will still be there on July 1st and we'd bid against the C Bags? What if we sign Kawhi, KD or Klay? We'd be alot less desperate. They're playing a risky game by dragging this out. Just take our farm (minus Lonzo or Ingram) and move on.
     
    tada, Jan 29, 2019
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  7. Khmrp

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    Its Davis, magic will be even more desperate to get him if he managed to sign one of those max guys
     
    Khmrp, Jan 29, 2019
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    I can't imagine a scenario where we'd be more desperate having Lebron + Kawhi plus our kids moving forward. Davis would be a luxury and not a necessity (like KD is to GSW) at that point.
     
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    NO is posturing. They're going to keep a disgruntled Davis for the rest of the season? Good luck. Look, as long as we make an effort here, I'm pleased; if NO doesn't cooperate, then there's really nothing we can do about it.

    However' I'll remain optimistic, but I know the deck is stacked against us...
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Jan 29, 2019
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    I said this on the previous page, but I'd offer that and say it won't be there come summer, which would hurt them regardless, because they have one less suitor to boost bidding.
     
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    I’ll be reading a lot of nonsense for the next week I think.
     
    sirronstuff, Jan 29, 2019
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    Yeah, it would be a mistake for the Pelicans to drag this out.

    If Kyrie walks on the C Bags, there's no way in hell they offer Tatum. AD won't stay if Tatum's not there. Their remaining kids, Jaylen, Rozier and Smart are all worse than Ingram and Kuzma by quite a margin. I'd say Zu and Hart are even better than Rozier and Smart.

    And their picks?
    C Bags pick: late 1st rounder
    Kings pick: mid teens
    Grizzlies pick: Top 8 protected - maybe next year or 2021
    Clippers pick: Lottery protected - maybe next year

    So they basically get 2 picks. OK, we'll match that.

    We have a better package right now. Just take it and stop being greedy. You f***ed up by not building a competitive team around AD.
     
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    I dont see it that way, a 2nd max still doesn't put us on par with current day gsw unless 2 of the 3 youth become legit stars
     
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    You do realize that it's unlikely they resign both KD and Klay right?

    Lebron + Kawhi + our kids
    vs
    Curry + Klay + Draymond
     
    tada, Jan 29, 2019
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    They'll re-sign Klay; the person who won't get paid? Draymond.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Jan 29, 2019
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    Why isnt it likely? Kd can get his max now, boggie is the one who they dont have $ for
     
    Khmrp, Jan 29, 2019
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    Well Draymond's contract isn't up until next year. The Klay/KD decision would have to be made this summer.
     
    tada, Jan 29, 2019
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    Because they're already deep into luxury tax and Klay is looking to get paid double his current salary. It's not sustainable. KD is likely to go elsewhere.
     
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    Some of these deals are laughable. In the end, it still boils down to:

    Ingram, Ball, Kuz, Zubac and a pick or two now

    or

    Tatum, Smart, Rozier and a couple picks later

    The unfortunate thing is ESPN is driving the narrative a bit, and they have an East Coast bias that will see them pump up this "glorious" C Bags package. I give the edge with Tatum over Kuz (a small one mind you), but the rest? Rozier is NOT better than Ball, and real basketball people know this. Ball's overall impact on the game outweighs Rozier's. Ingram is probably about equal to Brown, but Brown won't be in the package along with Tatum as Hayward can't be counted on at this point to be a starting wing on a contender. He has flat out sucked.

    Everyone keeps talking about the C Bags package "blowing the Lakers package out of the water" or whatever. No. Hayward sucks right now. If he can't return to form then they can't trade both Brown and Tatum. Those picks? The only pick that could be even remotely intriguing this draft is Sacramento's which likely won't be top 5 at this point, and the C Bags would have to make the pick for New Orleans which is always a bit dicey that far in front of when they could actually make that trade.

    I honestly think ESPN wants AD on the Lakers with Lebron because it's a rating's bonanza for all the games this spring when they have the Lakers. And it gives them so much more to talk about. But because their pundits basketball knowledge is so bad (I notice that ex-players LOVE Zo's game), they will push AD right into the C bag's arms this offseason.
     
    Savory Griddles, Jan 29, 2019
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    And in order to resolve that issue, Draymond will be traded, IMO.
     
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