Brandon Ingram Discussion: He Is Who We Thought He Could Be

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  1. abeer3

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    maybe he means his body refuses to add weight?

    i don't think ingram's issues come from lack of trying/want-to. the game just doesn't come that easily to him. he has some physical attributes (basically, crazily long arms and legs and good body control) that lend themselves to basketball, and he's a real competitor. that's going to give him a long career. he's just not going to be a first or second-level (top 30) nba player, imo.

    good close to the game last night; liked that he finally knocked down a three and that it was at a big moment. maybe this will help, confidence-wise?
     
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    Not much to complain about here from me last night. Played a really steady game. My question is how does he incorporate that type of play when Lebron comes back?
     
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    that was a big time 3 pointer...more courage than cold blooded clutch
     
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    If he can't gain weight, he needs to eat more. Then eat even more. Supplement with shakes if he can't swallow that much food. Man, every time he collides with someone he bounces off them... even if it's a 6-4 guard. He has no torzo to speak of.
     
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    I think his performance yesterday is what he should model more and more. He said he hadn't been playing well lately - trying too hard to get his own points and not thinking of others. I believe he's got the right idea now, play more team ball and don't stress the individual scoring aspect. Like he said there are other scorers on the team like Kuzma and even Josh Hart and it's better for everyone when the ball moves.

    That had been my source of frustration with him since the season started, actually.
     
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    I agree. Pass more, let the game come to you - meaning, you don't have to force anything. Use your versatility. If you have a good shot, take it. Otherwise, set your teammates up, especially Kuzma and Hart. Or KCP when he's open for 3. The problem is, of course, when Bron comes back... Brandon will feel like he needs to go into dribble & score mode more often. And I'm not sure it's exactly his fault. They have to figure it out somehow.

    If Bron is your primary scorer - but is also a facilitator - and Kuzma is your secondary scorer most of the time, then Ingram has to go into Odom mode; contribute in various ways. It might not look very attractive, but it is what's needed to win games. Rebound. Pass. Score in the post some. That kind of stuff. He is not as good as prime Odom, I mean... that's not knock on him. Odom thrived in that role naturally, and on top of everything else was simply stronger than Brandon. Do what you can.
     
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    If he can be become effective at cutting, and the guys can find him, imagine trying to stop that when he has a decent midrange for pullup jumpers also.
     
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    while he did have solid gm...his ft shooting is hopeless just like most of the team
     
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    Love that he has a solid mid range game & uses his length effectively when he goes to the basket.
    If he can just get a consistent 3pt Shot & make some d@#n Free Throws, he's gonna be hard to stop.

    Heck, he'd be averaging that 20ppg Magic set as a goal for him if he could just shoot a decent FT%.
     
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    This is probably true. Fix the free throw shooting, Brandon.
     
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    it's funny to say given history, but BI should be able to be more content with only a few FGAs in some games. make sure you're always playing d and being active off the ball and good things will happen.
     
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    Well he hits mid rangers now but needs to become more consistent. His light weight and frame remains one of his biggest problems in going to the basket.
     
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    Ingram and KCP for Beal. Do it now while he's stringing together some good games before Bron comes back. Having Beal and Lebron will make Kuzma that much more effective as he will get even more open looks and the floor will be spread even more for him. Kuzma will look so good we will be able to use him ball and Hart to get AD in the summer. Then...we get ringz.
     
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    Can anyone guess (without checking online) how many 30 and 20 points games BI had so far in his career (164 games)?
    I was surprised.
     
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    I think his career high is 32. I wouldn't know how many 20+ point games he had. But since he is capable of scoring, and 20 is not that high these days... 15-20 games in his career? More?

    I would not be surprised that Kuz has more 20+ point games in 1 season less. He scored almost 40 as his career high, right?
     
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    23 games with 20+ and 1 with 30+
    I was thinking he had around 50 20pts games.

    Kuz is at 35 and 7 in 114 games.
     
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    You know... that sounds about right. Brandon is a versatile 2-3 who does many things, but he is not a scorer. I would never describe him as such. He does not have a long range shot, his free throw shooting is bad and he is not strong enough to score a ton in the post. His quality is that he can adapt to many situations and he can defend too.

    Kuzma, on the other hand, is a scorer, period. He's unselfish, but you would never describe him as a playmaker. He is stronger, his mentality is to go out there and score. His FT% is significantly better than BI's. It's not brilliant but it's almost 80%, and I'll take that over Ingram's 62. On the other hand, Kuzma has absolutely no defensive instincts. He has improved, but he will never be a real defender.

    The two of them are very different players, only their height is the same (but Kuzma has 30 lbs on Brandon; which tells you more about how skinny Ingram really is).
     
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    Still, pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
     
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    Why would they trade Beal when Wall just went down for the season with heel surgery?

    :KobeConfused:

    Edit. Let me answer my own question ..... I guess because they're going to miss the playoffs anyway this year?
     

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