Kawhi Leonard Discussion: “I’m A Snake Clipper Guy.”

well, SA had been rumored to want:

allstar level player
young player
picks

and they got it...sort of. i'm not impressed with poeltl, and the pick is weak (late first or two seconds).

and we'd heard toronto's name for a week now, right?

toronto needs to get off lowry or derozan's deal, and the latter is easier to do. could they have dumped derozan into space next season without losing other assets? sure. are the assets they attached really moving needles when you're in a rebuild? nope.

deal makes sense for both sides, imo. much like okc's george deal, it's sort of a salary dump with a really high upside. okc cashed in big time (though in hindsight, their assets were pretty darn good). tor probably won't, but i don't think they'll be lamenting the move even if leonard walks. i don't think derozan's value is high right now.

 

Yes weird all i did was copy n paste

 

damn spurstalk is down lol CL like

 

LOL @ Spurs. Like LOL.

You thought, morons, this is better than whatever we may have been able to get convinced into? Like Ingram + Hart? LOL.

Also... absolutely BEST scenario.

1. we get to see how healthy Kawhi really is
2. we get to keep all of our young players
3. we get to say "f*** you" to the spurs

It is not PG 2.0 We have LeBro-hurl-hurl-hurl. So... a different team to join to, unless Kawhi is that insecure.

 

Grow up NBA players. 30 million for a mental weakling when it matters is more of a travesty.

Regardless if Kawhi stays or not, Raptors win in this trade.

 

We don't really know if we offered anything like that. But the breathless reporting from Woj on the SA demands was that they wanted 3 times that much including a couple 1st round picks.

 

Even worse. They thought they'd get Kuzma + Ingram + Hart, or whatever crazyass nonsense Skip was bringing up... LOL.

 

Kawhi Snow has officially been sent to the Wall to defend "The North."

He'll leave the Wall, unite with the rightful "King" to the throne, and battle against the White Warriors who now added a Zombie Ice Cousins.

You couldn't write this any better. Game of Zones is gonna have a field day lol.

 

I figured the player response to this wouldn’t be favorable

 

I will say I do think it’s about time for Ingram to start delivering consistently on the floor. We’ve now passed on two all stars based on his potential. Time to really show the faith in him is justified

 

Yeah... Toronto lost quite a bit of rep... They will find it VERY hard to attract FAs.

 

it's not just lowry we have to worry about kawhi starting a bromance with

 

Spurs look terrible cause Chris Carter was all over the airwaves saying Pop would take care of Kawhi (and in doing so, show other players that coming to the Spurs is an investment worth taking). Instead dude (but probably mainly RC) sent Kawhi to the farthest place from a big market and in doing so forced Kawhi to walk away from 50m.

Supermax was never going to happen, so Kawhi sacrifices about 30m if he and his bird rights are traded to a team of his choice (220m vs 190m). However, bird rights be damned, he's not going to re-up there, so in the process he will walk away from 50m to sign the max with whoever next summer (190m vs 140m). The Spurs really took him to the shed in that regard and what free agents will look at that as favorable when considering SA in the future. So Carter is going to really take the Spurs to task when he hits the airwaves now.

And then there is Toronto. They fired the coach of the year, salary dumped a player that was supremely loyal to them, Drake out here catchin Ls and when push comes to shove, it sure looks like Masai was rightfully put on blast by Bryan's burners... Cold game indeed.

What free agent is going to look at Toronto seriously now, while Masai is still there?

What a terrible deal all around for both teams. I'm pretty sure Derozan will make the best of it with Pop, but he's clearly not happy with it and Kawhi can't be happy with how he was done (to him the Spurs misdiagnosed his injury, made him the bad guy and not a team player and then cost the man 50m, let alone 80m).

We're looking extremely good in all of this...but the cLips are still in serious play and if Kawhi gets flipped to them, Kawhi will have 50m reasons to pick them over us. I still think we need to move on dude while we can...

Toronto can really start rebuilding in 2020, so Deng's contract lines up with that timeline...Bonga, Moe, Zu and Svi would honestly be a good haul for them with Kawhi practically out the door anyways. But does it beat a Avery/or Tobias plus Shai & JRob cLips deal?

 

What if derozan dont shown up 3yrs 28mil with a player option 3rd year and kawhi does the same and not show lmao

 

it's really not a terrible deal for TOR. it's just a messed up deal because of the way they handled it with derozan (telling him he won't be dealt)

TOR will kawhi and lowry will at least make the ECF. don't think they'll get past boston but in a lebron-less EC they're one of the best teams