Luol Deng Discussion: No #Dengdump, Rather Stretched Into Cash

If we move the Cavs pick in a Deng dump, there is a good chance we got a verbal commitment from one, if not both, our max guys.

Recall that Cp3 opted in and was traded last summer with Morey executing a bizzare barrage of moves for fringe players all before free agency even began. The only way that happens is if Morey, Cp3 and the cLips all had talks of the scenario before free agency begin (yet no tampering...wtf?). Imagine Cp3 opts in and then the cLips decide against trading him, then Cp3 is obligated to play out that final year as a cLip since he opted into his contract.

So I think LA only moves the pick with Deng knowing that it will start a domino effect in securing our #2018Plan.

Funny thing is that it's not the end all be all scenario. Stretching Deng and having LABron and George sacrifice 3M off their true max deals (27.4M for George and 32.6M for LaBron) allows us to match any offer for Jules. So Dallas can throw the bank at Jules and we'll still be able to match as long as George/LaBron are willing to play with him and sacrifice a modest portion of their max bag.

Meanwhile LaBron abd Cp3 would have to sacrifice a good chunk of their respective max deals just to play with each other in Houston.... and that's not even factoring Capela and his cap hold. Houston still can't offer close to the max for Bron and Cp3 even if they stretch Anderson. I would have a ton of respect for Morey if he finds a way...but aside from Bron and Cp3 sacrificing a generous portion of their max, it's impossible for that Rockets team to add LaBron this summer. That team would be decimated if Bron and Cp3 get close to their max amount. And in that case, LaBron would be joining a team vastly different and inferior to the squad they are today.

 

There is no doubt in my mind that George and James will be Lakers next season. I am trying to adjust to that kind of thinking. If we can get rid of Deng without sacrificing one of the main core of young players we will be as good as any team out there. My resistance to James has never been about talent but his Dbaggery. We wouldn't need much D from James though out the regular season. He could always guard the weakest guy and play a lot of help defense. He may very well be a top ten all time player. Kareem sits as the GOAT by himself and then a big log jam for #2 with an edge to MJ. I'm not giving up my position and promoting bringing James in just acknowledging that it is very likely. The level of defense we could play when needed to would make us a strong contender. This scenario plays out I will be expecting a Championship next season.

 

wish i had your confidence. if deng can be dumped as easily as pincus suggests, then so can ryan anderson.

 

If not easier.

 

Look who's appeared on camera! That 72 million dollar smile!

 

Free rides, hotel stays and site seeing all the meanwhile getting 18mill...id have a smile wider than the joker after beating up batman lol

 

So getting injured means that we can still stretch him but it would hurt his chances of jumping on with another team. He still gets paid every cent if we buy him out (saves Jeanie some cash, but still takes up cap) or stretch him.

Getting injured also means there is also a far-fetched scenario that LA can apply for a disabled player exception and get 50% of Deng's deal (9M) to go sign or trade for a player making that type of money. However the DPE would have to be granted by the league so this scenario is out of our control.

However not getting injured means it is more favorable in getting him traded. Cause lets face it, his contract makes it hard enough to deal him, now imagine trying to trade an injured Deng.

We're not letting him play cause maybe we have something in the works that could lead to a Deng dump. That's the only thing that makes sense in trying to protect himself and ourselves from an injury. Cause either way, we can stretch an injured or healthy Deng regardless.

Btw PickWatch: @24 with it being @21 with one more loss and @17 with 2 more losses.

 

or none of that and it's a three-way trade with just anderson and a couple 1sts going to wherever we planned to dump deng?

 

we might be talking over each other. i'm suggesting that they don't clear any cap space. they retain all their cap holds, move anderson and whatever other salary it takes (pj tucker?), lebron opts in and is traded there, the third team sends guys who expire next year to cle and gets one of the firsts. something like this.

 

How does one take this exactly? Is there some thinly veiled sarcasm going on?

 

lol, i was wondering about that.

 

Is this regard I feel bad for the guy. After 6 months the team made their decision. Maybe he would eventually have gotten in shape to be a positive on the floor for them in some way. He never got that chance to make up for the 1st half of one season basically . And now he just gets crapped on in the media. Gotta hurt.

.... however just remembered he played like less than a quarter in a game at the start of the season due to injuries to the other forwards and they must have felt he hadn't improved much or he would have played more in that game.