Ex-Coach Luke Walton Discussion

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  1. therealdeal

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    My bad. :D

    We've been typing it for so long.
     
    therealdeal, Feb 8, 2018
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    No worries but I'd been away and this was one of the 1st threads I read. I was in complete shock and it took me like 10 minutes of reading other threads to realize it was a typo.
     
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    2nd year head coach
    Coaching one of the youngest teams in the league and at one point (pre-trade) was coaching the youngest team in the league
    Roster overhaul during the summer
    Abridged training camp
    Helped a last place defense of the last several years become top 10 for large portions of the season
    Dealing with your starting rookie PG (which the early offense was hugely predicated off of) going down for an extended time
    Dealing with Zo hype and the intangibles that come with it (ie Lavar)
    Didn't flinch when his coaching was publicly question and ridiculed
    Dealt with Jules and BLo both openly perturbed about their playing time
    Listened to the players after the grievance meeting
    Helped diffuse the recent controversy of IT not happy of coming off the bench

    In spite of all that, being one of the winningest teams at the turn of the calendar year
    Despite a grueling December schedule and a 9 game losing streak, only 6 losses out of the playoff hunt

    Coach of the year candidate?
     
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    Only way he gets in the conversation is if he makes it to the playoffs.

    If he gets the team to the playoffs he'll finish in the Top 3 in COY and might win it if we're on some crazy win streak. Otherwise, no dice.
     
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    I’m happy to eat crow. I loved the Luke hire, but I saw what I thought were fundamental problems in his coaching. I have no problem being wrong as it seems he’s made the necessary adjustments and we look like a cohesive unit out there now.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah. He has to make it into the playoffs for COY. But I think if we do, he wins it. So in other words, he isn't winning coach of the year. :D

    But in all seriousness, there haven't really been any stand-out coaching performances this season. Everyone is kind of exactly where everyone expected. If anything, more teams are underachieving. I guess Toronto is slightly overachieving. Doc Rivers (gulp) has the Clippers in a better position than they should be with that roster. But if we somehow managed to sneak into the playoffs, after a major mid-season trade and a 9 game losing streak with our 5 best players all being under the age of 24 in the Western Conference, Luke is a slam dunk as COY.
     
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    I think Casey is probably in the lead for COY. They didn’t really change anything as far as roster and they’re probably going to end up the 1 seed in the east. I don’t see how Pop isn’t COY every year though, same as Phil should have always been in the running. He’s had Leonard for 9 games this season and SA is 3rd in the West. As long as ‘Antoni doesn’t win it I’m good though. Can’t believe he has 2 of those and Phil Jackson has 1. Kind of like Nash having 2 MVP awards and Kobe having 1. What Kobe AND Phil did in 2006 was a miracle.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    No. No!
     
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    Wouldn't you rather be wrong about Luke? Or are you more comfortable hating him even if/when he's successful?
     
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    I would. Games like this one make it really hard.
     
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    I don’t understand that lineup to close the game. They went big so we went..tiny? We’ve been relying on Ingram to close games for a while now and we’ve won 4 in a row, and 12 of 16, so all of a sudden we decide to run the offense through KCP, and IT the guy who has been here one day? C’mon now. You don’t trash what has been working for a month and a half to appease agents.
     
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    Yeah the IT part was what bothered me. The Mavs had adjusted to him and we needed rebounding in there. Kuzma was doing his best, but probably our best rebounding weapon was on the bench in Hart. I want IT to be successful too, but I'm not trying to lick his boots either. If he wants to come in and contribute he was doing a good job. Now let's let the guys who are our core finish this thing. We should have ended the game with Ingram/Pope/Hart/Kuzma/Randle. I mean Hart wasn't playing great, but still would have been a lineup with better chemistry than what we had.
     
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    Yeah man, absolutely.
     
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    Just me or we always lose to Dallas because Carlisle outcoaches us?
    Regardless, we need to figure out how to play defense with IT out there. We can't just switch everything. We're probably going to ruin whatever chemistry/momentum we had prior to the trade to figure it out and then some more whenever Ball comes back.
     
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    100% with [​IMG] in that we all saw this coming so why wasn't Luke prepared to not have IT out there when Hart should have been? He needs to have this fixed like immediately if we are serious about winning and not making my Push For The Playoffs thread look stupid. Shut up LVBD.
     
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    I think we all agree he should have pulled IT, but the thought process behind it was definitely simple: IT was playing well most of the game. He's the vet. Luke wanted to give him a shot to be the guy he used to be. He's done it with basically all his vets. Besides, Hart wasn't playing particularly well anyway so Luke probably figured it was worth the shot.

    Not saying I agree, but I'm willing to bet money that was the whole thought process.
     
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