Paul George Discussion

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  1. Kenzo

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    Tampering...
     
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    right. it's the ron artest-er-paul george thread.
     
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    Yeah I know. Much rather still have both Moz and DLO here than cap space to work with and Kyle Kuzma. I know I know .... he would have been there at 28 .... right? And Josh Hart is just kinda .....

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    Mozgov? I rather have slowpez
     
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    Everything worked out just fine. Just think about it this way. Had we not traded DLO and Moz, changing the circumstances and conditions of that draft plus its ripple effect, we would not have landed KYLE KUZMA.

    We can include JC in that DLO+Moz trade and we still end up with Kuzma and I would've still been okay.

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  6. therealdeal

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    Be prepared for Russell fans to disagree with that statement.
     
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    Looking ahead with what we envision for our team, our brand, chemistry and cohesiveness as a unit, KUZMA over DLo all the way.

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    i dont care bout the trade but its not definitive that we wouldn't had drafted kuz @28th....it is a failed trade to me IF mgmt doesnt get that max guy, that was the goal of the trade, NOT Kuzma
     
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    There is some truth to this. Nobody plans on drafting a player with the type of impact Kuzma has at 27. It's a roll of the dice at that point. If the Lakers knew he was going to be this good, they probably trade Clarkson and the 27th to move up a few spots to make sure nobody takes him. The Russell trade is a bit of revisionist history, sort of like the Pau trade. Marc Gasol was a bit of a throw-in in that trade that landed us Pau. Memphis was trying to clear space and they happened to get an eventual all-star. Same thing with us and Kuzma.
     
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    Nothing is definitive from a hindsight going back and you're missing the point. The point is, the trade yes if we don't get a max which was the main purpose is a failure, but it's not like it's an absolute strike out.

    Financial flexibility for an up and coming team is GOLD. When opportunities become available including but not limited to max players, we can always take it. Much better position I think than having a little below average young team with not much room for growth except hope they get better.

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    It would have been nice to still have DLO since he was so amped to play with Lonzo rather than the situation now with Zo and Kuzma hating each other and likely dividing the locker room, but that's not being talked about. Yet.
     
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    I really don't understand the chirping on that trade....Still? Really?

    Moz is buried on that Nets bench. DLo's injury concerns even with the Nets thriving without him (ie Dimwiddie) makes any Laker fan regretting that move an absolute dimwit. (Sorry, just wanted to use that word... It's hard to find any other appropriate time to use it.)

    Seriously tho, that's not even considering how Dlo threw shade at Zo even before we drafted him. Barring injury, y'all think DLo and Zo woulda just gotten along? For all the crap that KCP gets, imagine DLo in the backcourt playing defense alongside Zo. Not only does that open up an injury susceptible Zo to even more duress, but that top 10 defensive efficiency rating we're currently sporting doesn't see the light of day.

    All this talk of George and LaBron teaming up here isn't even fathomable if MozDeng is taking up a max spot, while cashing checks sitting their a**** at home.

    "Oh but we coulda traded DLo/Moz later in the season?" Yeah, good luck with that after teams got to see infighting between DLo and Zo, all while Dlo and Moz sat in street clothes for a large part of the early season. I'm sure their trade value is sky high right now.

    I'm sorry but regretting that trade makes zero sense to me. Even if Kuz was still there at 28, remember we had no 1st round picks fam, while SA is sitting there at 29...the FO did something right.
     
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    what? we had the 28th pick, how do you think we got hart?
     
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    Yeah... How do you think we got the 28th pick...magic? Oh wait...
     
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    ummmm i dont understand your position here, you said we didnt have a 1st rd pick....do you even know how we got the 28th pick?
     
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    This time last year we had no 1st round pick. Top 3 protected, otherwise Boston has it. No 28, 30, 42..we still had Lou.

    Magic comes on board before last year's trade deadline and executes his first trade (w/o Rob).

    Now I'm going to exKuz myself from the discussion till you figure it out.
     
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    dude you got nothing correct there, we had 28th already from the lou trade n got 27th from bk trade after 28th was traded down for 30th n 42.....you clearly don't remeber, try re reading the original post i responded to n bos didnt own that pick then, phi owned it
     
  18. therealdeal

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    Actually Vaz is correct and maybe you should read more closely.

    This time last year, we had zero 1sts. We didn't trade Lou for a pick until the deadline which is next month (and in fact was later in the month last year). We also didn't have our own pick because it could have conveyed to the Sixers if we fell out of the Top 3 picks.

    We went into the draft with the 2nd and 28th picks. We traded D'Angelo/Mozgov for the Lopez/27th. We drafted Kuzma at 27 and traded the 28th pick to Utah I believe for the 30th/42nd pick.

    Russell fans/FO detractors/whomever else all say that we could have just kept the 28th pick and taken Kuzma there even though it's not guaranteed that Brooklyn wouldn't have taken Kuzma at 27th. There's also the fact that if we'd taken Kuzma at 28th, we couldn't have traded back and gotten Hart/Bryant where at the very least Hart looks like a functional player.

    Skeptics of the trade should at least view it as Russell/Mozgov for Lopez/Hart/Bryant, but in reality it was literally Russell/Mozgov for Lopez/Kuzma.
     
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    he also stated we had 28th, 30th and still had lou .....so yeah you read it as well
     
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    Boy you must be fun to hang out with in the real world.
     

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