Luol Deng Discussion: No #Dengdump, Rather Stretched Into Cash

whatever works, not like its our money lol

 

Clever tactic Mr. Pincus. I still would use Randle or Clarkson to trade Deng with for a cheaper asset/pick and a lesser contract that we can stretch.

True, its not our money, but it would get really annoying for all of us armchair GMs to look at roughly $4M in dead cap to maneuver around in any plausible FA/trade scenario for the next decade.

 

if it was that cheap to move deng, wouldve been done long ago

 

I am totally opposed to rewarding suckiness.

What the hell is this, and how does this make sense? I am deeply disturbed by this.

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FYI, it's much cheaper to hire a hitman. It might even be more ethical than paying someone 40 million to never play again lol.

 

I hear you Real...its going to be tough moving those contracts in a straight up salary dump. But for example, I'm thinking more along the lines of taking on a Tyson Chandler type deal back and then using the stretch provision on a contract like that. That way the other team will throw in a lesser asset or pick for Randle or Clarkson and then its a swap of bad contracts with Deng and Chandler (in this example). Obviously that way, we save millions in dead cap and for far less years.

Deng = 7.4M for 5 seasons
Chandler = 4.5M for 3 seasons
Deng (Pincus 40M extension route) = 3.6M for 11 seasons

 

Just eat the rest of his contract and chalk it up to a bad era and move on. You’ll make the money back.

OR

Play his a** every game until he is ready to collapse on the floor to get every penny out of him you can. We are going to lose a good number of games anyway.

But for gods sake whatever you do don’t have his name attached to this brand beyond this contract and don’t pay him a penny more.

 

so whats the other team benefit for taking on a longer deal in deng if you expect other team to pay with smaller asset for jr or jc?

 

He'll be dead before ... DO IT MITCH !

 

think they already tried that. maybe with two 1sts. there's also not a ton of teams who can straight up eat that salary, either.

i still think the most likely scenario is breaking his contract into smaller parts and trying to dump those. maybe you end up with one deal that goes even longer than his, but is closer to what you would have paid in a stretch scenario.

i'm still looking at dallas and chicago right now. dallas wants money to spend in FA next year, but given their failures there, you might be able to coax them into deng if you take powell (9 million per for a couple more years) and give randle's RFA rights. they have an expiring in mcroberts. you lose randle, but you basically gain the cash needed for two maxes, right? or at least you get pretty close.

 

Play him 48 minutes til he breaks. Use insurance on the contract, and get a medical roster exception from the league once he’s forced to retire.

 

Pay me to go Tonya Harding on that knee cap

I can think of several better options than paying him more money.

 

I think of her and Luol a lot these days. Must be because of "I, Tonya" being out now.

 

You got to find a team that values JR or JC. In particular, if a team doesn't have cap space this coming summer and has a bad contract, in essence we can offer them Jules (and exclusive matching rights as a RFA) while we swap out bad contracts. Jules may not be in our future, but another team that knows they don't have the cap and know they don't have the market/culture to draw top free agents, will want a Randle on their team on a somewhat controllable contract. Trading for Jules, the team has still a majority of the year to see how he fits...and then since he's a RFA, they can allow the market to dictate his pay before deciding to match it and keep him. And with JC, he's actually being paid under market value so that's a contract any cap-strapped team would love to have.

Randle by himself could probably grab a mid 1st rounder. Attaching him to Deng and having another team dump a less cap restrictive salary on us, may yield a low/heavily protected 1st rounder for Randle...but I'd still do that deal just to get off of Deng's contract.

And speaking of which, some of y'all are wrong in wishing bodily harm to Deng haha. If someone is going to call up and offer a ton of guaranteed cash, seriously what would you do? This really isn't on Deng....its on Jimmy/Mitch. Deng just did the smart thing and took the guaranteed cash...its a no brainer.

 

But he came in out of shape and never got in shape (least presence in weight room documented) and all downhill from there. Then was salty when he was benched in the second half after season was dead. Shot for s*** while stating in an interview that shooting and more shooting was his favorite part of practice ritual to do on his own.

So I'm kind of into the bodily harm thing. LOL. Courtesy of Glick: