Kyle Kuzma Discussion: Wizard

Discussion in 'NBA Discussion' started by therealdeal, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Not so. In college his junior year he shot 32.1% from deep. He had a career average of 30.4% from outside.

    He shot in the 40% range only the last month he played although from January to March he shot 38.6% from deep.

    Still, three months out of a three year career would seem like a hot streak to most scouts probably.
     
  2. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    But your lumping all his 3's together with these numbers.

    I mean I just trust this guy who, all he does is analysis on basketball and a large part of the Lakers.

     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2017
  3. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Gotcha. Fair enough. I'd like to know where he gets his numbers from, what the sample size was on that, and what each shot looked like. Was he walking into the shot? Was he setting himself up?

    That stat by itself, there's no way to even know what that means if I'm an NBA scout.
     
    Cookie and abeer3 like this.
  4. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,021
    Likes Received:
    75,609
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    people are asking how he slipped. he was a 30% three point shooter in college; that's how he slipped. honestly, demonstrating that he hit at a higher rate from nba distance in college would have made me MORE skeptical at the time. guarantee that was a small sample. the larger sample indicated he was a mediocre (at best) shooter.

    happily for us, it turns out he wasn't. but i wouldn't be firing my scouts for missing that.

    just like i wouldn't fire my scouts for passing on kawhi leonard in the top 5 of his draft. nobody he knew he'd shoot like this. the spurs didn't even know; they've said as much.

    edit: i will say that kuzma's mechanics are nice for someone with his %s in college. look at a still of him at release--looks excellent.
     
  5. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    Those are all good questions and the sample size probably wasn't a whole lot, guessing 10-20 attempts.

    Edit:

    Looks like someone asked and he answered:

     
  6. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    See as a scout what am I doing with that really? I mean it sounds nice and all and it's one of those things that you can retroactively look to and say "see??" but I'd bet there's dozens, maybe hundreds, of kids who shoot well in that sample size in college from NBA distance.
     
  7. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,411
    Likes Received:
    60,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    [​IMG] My boys knew!
     
    Cookie likes this.
  8. SeasonVet24

    SeasonVet24 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2014
    Messages:
    361
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    I don't like to toot my own horn, but just sayinz. He needs to either start or be the 1st one off the bench for us to have a chance.
     
    jbiggs likes this.
  9. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,411
    Likes Received:
    60,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    Get in line with the dates on tooting your horn (I'm thinking) Was first post before first Utah clips showed up here? If not, how long after. Guess I could go to the start of the thread and check but you're doing the tooting. :Crazyartest:
     
  10. Toklat

    Toklat - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,168
    Likes Received:
    5,517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He will be starting soon. Too good not to. Starters need to have complete games if possible..
     
  11. ZenMaster

    ZenMaster - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,023
    Likes Received:
    13,382
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    There will be no tooting horns on Kuzwagon.
     
  12. ZenMaster

    ZenMaster - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,023
    Likes Received:
    13,382
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Why can I toot my horn, you ask? It turns out I am a member #22 of LakersBall, so...
     
    Barnstable likes this.
  13. lakerfan2

    lakerfan2 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    5,220
    Likes Received:
    10,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Offline
    If Kuz consistently puts up this level of play, I wouldn't hesitate to move Randle/Nance in a trade to move Deng. And, take a shooter back at that.
     
  14. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,608
    Likes Received:
    76,905
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    tooting sometime precedes pooping, and both smell awful

    therefore, no tooting plz

    but if he sucks later, he'll totally get the Anthony Brown treatment.

    [​IMG]
     
    ZenMaster, LTLakerFan and Khmrp like this.
  15. John3:16

    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,590
    Likes Received:
    15,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    CEO - Big Baller Brand
    Offline
    Screenshot_20171004-212502.jpg
     
    alam1108 and Cookie like this.
  16. John3:16

    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,590
    Likes Received:
    15,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    CEO - Big Baller Brand
    Offline
    Just another 21 point game on 7 of 9 shooting.

    Didn't force anything.

    All aboard!!!!!
     
  17. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,570
    Likes Received:
    75,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    All I know is, even if his shooting somehow falls off a cliff, he’s STILL a smarter and better all-around player than Randle, with a much better feel for the game. If this keeps up, there is no reason Randle deserves to start over Kuzma other than some stupid seniority rule.
     
  18. Jaguar

    Jaguar - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,926
    Likes Received:
    3,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Offline
    Kuz is efficiently effective. Randle and Clarkson aren’t.
     
  19. John3:16

    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,590
    Likes Received:
    15,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    CEO - Big Baller Brand
    Offline
    I'd go with Lopez, Kuzma, Ingram, KCP and Ball. Not a lot of defense, but the ball will move and we'd score.

    Let Randle and Clarkson fight each other with 2nd unit for shots until we can pawn them off.
     
  20. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The odd moment when Kyle Kuzma is the best player on the lakers! Haha, go and get them kuz!
     

Share This Page