Paul George Discussion

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  1. abeer3

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    yeah, if you were unprepared for this, you deserve to be fired again.

    note his focus:

    This couldn’t have come at a worse time for me.

    In my opinion, I was very inclusive with him.

    "It's not ideal, but we didn't put ourselves in it," Pritchard said. "[George] did.

    deflection and self-promotion. it's why he was fired before.


    “We want to do something that’s right for our organization. We looked at a lot of things, but at the end of the day, we decided to stay put. We’re not going to make a bad deal. We’re going to do something we feel comfortable with… Everybody thought today was a trigger date because draft picks were involved but it doesn’t mean you can’t do things with future draft picks, players today, young players, older established players. We’re keeping everything on the board.’’

    actually, you're not. you lost the opportunity to draft players now and the certainty that comes with it. all picks you're offered from now on will be heavily protected and in the future.

    you had a chance at randle and two first round picks that could report today, but you couldn't take your medicine. the offers have already decreased and will continue to do so.

    jimmy butler went for an underperforming draft pick, a jordan clarkson type coming off a knee injury, and a pick swap. and he's under contract at a reasonable price for two more years. the market is set, and you're f***ed, buddy.
     
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    This trade will look great by next year:

    Lakers Get: Lonzo, Hart, Kuzma, Bryant, and Paul George

    Pacers Get: Nothing
     
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    Has Pritchard been hanging out with Phil Jackson lately? Indy has no leverage, and they have less leverage the longer they wait. Instead of a bag of chips, they're getting crumbs now.
     
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    to me, the best move for indy now is to do absolutely nothing. george is too much of a competitor to simply mail it in. he's not going to waste a year of his prime.

    maybe he comes in, makes all nba, and decides to take the GIANT salary increase available to him if he stays. maybe the lakers win 18 games next year and george gets cold feet about going there. maybe gs has an injury and boston or houston gets ups the ante at the trade deadline for a playoff rental that they think can turn into more.

    now, those scenarios are all fairly unlikely (save the lakers being terrible again, we pretty much cemented that with the 2018 cap space plan), but not impossible. what is impossible is getting much value in trade right now.

    i'm super mad. lakers missed an opportunity, as did the pacers. better negotiators on both sides would have gotten this done. instead they both can be satisfied that they "won" the game of chicken.
     
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    It's crucial we get PG this year by all means. Testing waters.

    To see how far we could go with our young players alongside their anointed Alpha Male. FA and further trades will greatly depend upon PG coming home. It's not like we're going full steam with the recruitment but this season supposedly should somehow give a glimpse of our future, it's ceiling, potential, and what not. So acquiring middle tier support players won't make sense if there is no clear cut leader to support. The dynamics of our player's game and the team as a unit will change and vary with and without PG around.

    And we're supposed to use this season to lure in a top tier star or two as we strap on for a 5th gear in 2018.

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  6. KareemtheGreat33

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    The key here is make the playoffs with the guys we have. If say, we get the 7th or 8th seed, I think PG will come no question but if we are in the lottery then it becomes iffy.
     
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    As currently constructed, we are definitely not making the playoffs.
     
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    Probably not, but we can still improve our win total.
     
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    not by much, imo. they can't use cap space to improve, either. boston totally screwed us, imo. they just got in on the bidding to make sure the lakers didn't get george. would have killed the value of their newly acquired pick, plus they want to keep the possibility of getting him for themselves open.

    their pick value is now almost totally safe. even if the pacers finally relent and trade george to the lakers at the deadline, the damage to next year's record will have already been done. ainge wins.
     
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    Don't think we're screwed at all. Cleared the decks for two maximum free agents. Got rid of an albatross and also a young guy who clearly became an issue in the locker room and wasn't a leader at all. You just added a legit true PG with the #2 draft who should contend for the rookie of the year award. Acquired other picks and in this draft are likely to find another gem or two. You add Brook Lopez and even if it's just for one year he likely adds more to our win total than D'Angelo would've. Ingram and Zubac will be better just by playing with a kid like Lonzo.

    Yeah don't think we're screwed at all. Magic and Rob know what they're doing. They're acquiring assets and they've got cap space now and they clearly seem to have a lot more understanding of the salary cap then Mitch and Jim did not to mention have more credibility especially Magic with the game's elite talents many of which are about to hit free agency.
     
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    i actually don't think adding 4 rookies was a good thing. i think they had no intention of doing that prior to yesterday evening.
     
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    Thank you, was beginning to think I was the only one who felt this way. Added 3 guaranteed contract players plus a 2nd rounder (PLUS signed an undrafted guy) yesterday, 2 of them I'm ok with keeping, the other 2 I couldn't care less. Too much youth is a bad thing. Too much youth and fringe nba talent/D-Leaguers is what Philly was a few years ago when they were the worst in the league, and why Minny continues to not get to the next level. You can't just keep drafting rookies and signing free agents to 1+1 deals and saying "next summer is the big summer!". That's what led to 4 lottery seasons in a row and a fired team president and GM.

    I get that we aren't winning a title right now, and even trading for George doesn't guarantee us the playoffs, but we need to start playing to win now. We have no first round pick next season, if we suck, we suck for nothing, it's time to field a competitive team. 4 rookies is not how I would have started that. We have 10 guys on the roster right now 25 or younger, JC being the oldest having barely turned 25. Too many young players, too many. If we don't make some moves to shuffle things around a bit before next season starts we are going to suuuuuck.
     
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    yeah, i just posted similar in another thread. as it stands, we're going to be a very, very bad team next year.
     
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    I predict a play-off run, leave me alone, O ye of little faith
     
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    How could that team make a playoff run, when Portland, led by an absolute star in Lillard and 2nd tier guy as good as McCollum could only make the 8th seed in the west. I have total faith we can still improve this team, it's only June, but the roster as is wouldn't come close to the playoff, they'd be overachieving to win 30 games.
     
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    :Laugh: now you brought me down to earth
     
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    We're not screwed but it would have been really nice to have PG's bird rights. We'd be able to go over the cap to sign him and that would have been helpful in getting him a running mate or two.
     
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