( I think) We need to ask ourselves two questions if we are willing to give up significant assets for PG13 : - He's not in the tier of Lebron, KD and a very few others ... He's a solid number 2 , will he be able to attract others big FAs in LA to put us back on top ? ... If not the 1 year rental thing to another is a risk we should be willing to take as losing him wouldn't be that bad ( I know sucking for 4 seasons has been unbearable though ...) - Do we really want PG to join us this season ? Even with him , we may not be very good ... what if it doesn't like it here and he ends up being a 1 year rental for us ... ala Coward
Pg isn't standing in the corner waiting to shoot 3 like love, also w/o love it's even that much easier for gsw to balance the interior rebounding, love had some really big reb gms in the finals. Drey/iggy won't have any problems guarding pg, they just do what works, make it difficult for kyrie n pg, James gona do what he do.
My take on the PG situation is... If we can get him for something reasonable (Clarkson + 28 and Black), then you make the trade today. If not, you risk it and wait until free agency. There is no sense in giving up major assets for him because even with him we will not be a true contender. We are better off keeping the young guys we have AND then add George. After that you can retool and move around the roster as we see fit.
I think we maybe overvaluing our "assets' here like they all gonna be the next Westbrook, Harden and KD. Question is what if they won't be? What would that make us? Another 5 years? A whole decade of irrelevance? Sent from my E6533 using Tapatalk
Yes! For so many reasons. 1. The sooner he gets here, the sooner he's a legit recruiter. 2. We instantly improve to a team capable of making a run at an 8 seed. Portland sunk in as the 8 seed with 41 wins lead by Damian Lillard. I think George can do something similar for our team. We may not actually make it to the 8th seed, but we'll compete for it. 3. We have his Bird Rights. Always helpful. 4. The C Bags now have our pick for the upcoming season. F*** them and let's get George so they never see that player amounting to anything for them.
Shelburne on ESPN 710 says: Cavs and Lakers are in it. Cavs need the gamble to try to keep LeBron around. It seems the general consensus is that LeBron is really likely to leave if things don't turn up well in Cleveland this summer. C Bags could try, but aren't really close. She mentioned Minnesota or Portland as teams that should try, but probably won't. Clippers don't have any assets.
Ok. Cavs have no pick(s), though. They do have Love and possibly Irving. Don't think they'd trade Irving...
No way they trade Irving. I think @abeer3 said he saw somewhere that Cleveland would flip Love to some team for picks and send the picks to Indiana. I don't know who gives up a bunch of assets for Love, but there you go. Maybe the C Bags do it. I find it fascinating how willingly everyone just accepts that LeBron is going to leave at this point though. One extra point that's really important: The GM in Cleveland doesn't have an extension signed. He hasn't gotten a new contract just 4 days before the draft so he's working all this with absolutely zero job security. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
After sleeping on it last night, I still think we start negotiations with Deng/Mozgov, 28th pick, and future 2nd round picks, but you've convinced me that Clarkson is expendable. So if Indy doesn't budge, we offer them Clarkson, 28th pick, and future 2nd round picks. I don't think Indy is gonna get anything better than that for a 1 year rental.
Lateral move if they trade irving. Love I can see, but Cleveland doesn't have picks. I'm sensing the reason the Lakers want another pick in the first is so they can send that pick and the 28th with a starter to Indy. Just my guess.
clarkson+28th+a couple future 2nd rounders should be the lakers best offer i know the rumour is that PG wants to be a laker but you never know. he could sign anywhere in the offseason and that's why the FO would be out of their mind to offer anything better than that