Ex-Coach Luke Walton Discussion

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  1. lakerfan2

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    Please no small ball lineup.

    Clarkson/Russell/Ingram/Nance/Zu
     
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    I'm almost positive that's the lineup they'll go for.

    Try to see if a) Nance can hold up against starters and b) what the guard play looks like without Randle. Are they good enough to get by without Randle's unique skill set? I'd like to find out. If they are, a package built around Randle and maybe that Top 3 pick would look pretty damn nice to Indiana and then we bring in a more traditional PF or maybe even Ilyasova or something to space the floor.
     
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    Hm...
     
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    Then he should he should coach better...benching these donkeys dont do anything
     
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    Something needs to change with this roster.
     
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    4th quarter stat padding...
     
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    man, it's late in the season to be dealing with this kind of stuff.

    it's also hard to sell the young guys on the team-first win-first stuff when you're shutting down guys in order to help lose more games, and then you imply that everyone is auditioning for their job over the last 30 games of the season.
     
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    I think they all know what's happening; this is just something that needs to be said in case someone thinks we're tanking on purpose. Which is totally what we are not doing. :Brows:
     
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    The Los Angeles Talkers from the coaching staff to players ...
     
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    Completely agree.
     
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    Randle and Russell really played well against the Clippers last stringers. :D
     
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    A lot of indirect finger pointing with these Luke interviews. So who is the culprit that is being selfish? Clarkson has his contract. Russell is a year away from a new contract. Randle is next for a reup.

    I don't watch enough games to actually figure it out, but logic would say Randle?
     
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    The'ire hippocrits

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    I would say all three kids you mentioned could easily fit his description.
     
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    Randle and Clarkson, should be obvious.

    But look - Luke can't say this after the game: "I am pleased with how our tanking is going, we're hoping to get Ball, as you all know, and all our young guys know this as well, so they are giving ~60% effort, which is obviously not enough to win games. But yeah, everything is under control."
     
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    Randle and JC were the ones I had in mind. Russell played okay offensively in the first half (9 points 50FG%, 2 assists). Unfortunately he and JC still lay on the screens instead of fighting over it. And Zu isn't quick enough to hedge hard and recover on P&R, and Randle never boxes out Zu's man when he goes to help. Perfect recipe for crappy defense.
     
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    Yeah what I did get to watch was late in the game, but it was all the same sort of junk like you said. Russell and Clarkson defensively are like hamsters on wheels. Russell overplays way out on top and gets beat, then lays on the easy screen which puts either one of the bigs in a huge bind either forced to help, foul, or get beat themselves. Clarkson seems to be constantly running nowhere as he gets beat the same way. Randle is consistently late rotating and his body language off the ball is preposterously bad. Zubac was put in positions to fail consistently either in isos against quicker guys or in the pick and roll like you said.

    Randle had one of those first halves that I said were unacceptable just looking at the stat line. It was something like 2/2/2/0/0 which is embarrassing for a player with his skill level. I'd have to watch it unfold to see exactly what happened but if I had to guess: he missed an early shot and then refused to shoot it, his lack of shooting stalled part of the offense, he quietly moves into the background putting the rest of his team in a tough position playing 5 on 4 offense.
     
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    We can't play DAR and JC . We gave up 118 pts per 100 possessions with them together on the floor per Zach Lowe like 10 days ago .

    I'm sure the number has gone worse and the +/- is abyssal too
     
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    According the Ringer article here, it's 121.4 points per 100 possessions.
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-like-featuring-thunder-russell-westbrook-nba

    There is a video in the article too
     
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