D'Angelo Russell Discussion: Adopting A Professional Attitude

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by The Original 81, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,078
    Likes Received:
    18,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    I've said this before - that there are some important differences between Harden and Russell. I think Harden is not as good a shooter, honestly, and is a chucker who relies on volume and absurd calls that remove FGA to boost his shooting %s. Russell is also a better defender already - by a good bit, in my view. They're both capable of being high assist guys with lots of careless TOs. They can both score well, and they both have pretty impressive range on their shot.
     
    Kenzo, abeer3, gcclaker and 1 other person like this.
  2. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,078
    Likes Received:
    18,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    Check out Harden's per36 minute stats (pts-ast-reb):
    Age 20: 15.6-2.8-5.1
    Age 21: 16.4-2.9-4.2
    Age 22: 19.3-4.2-4.7
    Age 23: 24.4-5.5-4.6

    Now Russell's from last season and from this preseason:
    Age 19: 16.8-4.2-4.4
    Age 20: 21.7-6.4-4.2

    ;)
     
  3. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,360
    Likes Received:
    76,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    And he has better teeth!!!
     
  4. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,584
    Likes Received:
    27,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Very encouraging. Now he just needs to grow that beard.
     
    Kenzo and trodgers like this.
  5. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    8,931
    Likes Received:
    20,303
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    There are many NBA players that are better defensively than Har_en... I'm sure most of us here too. :) I'd like to see Russell incorporate that step back J that Har_en uses.
     
    trodgers likes this.
  6. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,360
    Likes Received:
    76,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    [​IMG]

    I could totally put that beard On DeAngelo Russell LOL
     
  7. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,587
    Likes Received:
    23,556
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    Do it...okay don't do it.
     
  8. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,087
    Likes Received:
    60,058
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    [​IMG]
     
    Cookie and sirronstuff like this.
  9. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,584
    Likes Received:
    27,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Let's see that Photoshop, then we will decide.
     
  10. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    27,657
    Likes Received:
    74,690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    harden's physical strength is something russell will never match, but i think he can surpass him in all other areas.

    then again, i'm not a huge harden fan. i think without the favorable officiating, he's regarded like demar derozan or worse.
     
  11. Purp n Gold

    Purp n Gold - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2015
    Messages:
    889
    Likes Received:
    2,819
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Cool Ranch
    Offline
    I'm not a fan of Harden either, but he's a much better shooter/passer than Derozan. D'Lo is no where close to matching the strength & driving game that Harden has... but I think they're similar in the way they use hesitations and screens. I would say PnR game, but both of these guys just end up shooting it after getting a screen. In a couple years, I think D'Lo will be regarded as a clearly better shooter than Harden too
     
  12. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't like Haren's game at all. Way too ball-dominant, turnover prone, and forces foul calls. I much prefer the Brandon Roy and Ginobili comparisons.
     
  13. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    27,657
    Likes Received:
    74,690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i didn't mean that his game was like derozan; i meant that he would be regarded like derozan: as a second or third-tier "star" instead of a franchise cornerstone.
     
  14. Lakers2015

    Lakers2015 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    6,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm okay with DeRozan because DeRozan did get to the East Finals as the best player on a team along with Lowry. If Ingram/Russ are as good as those two I'm okay with that. Those guys are All Star players in this league and you can bet whether it's Paul George, Cousins, Towns, whoever that star is on the free agent market will wanna come play for the Lakers.
     
  15. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    15,902
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    Damn you Sirron. Now, everytime i open TapaTalk i see Harden's face...
    Makes me hate that app.
     
    sirronstuff likes this.
  16. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,152
    Likes Received:
    22,367
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't know about the physical strength part. James Har_en isn't that strong. He's bigger than Russell right now, but Russell is only 20. It's tough to say how much bigger Russell can get. Har_en probably will be a little stronger, but It's still a little too early to say never.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  17. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    27,657
    Likes Received:
    74,690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    harden was super strong at 20. he's a power guard. russell doesn't even have the frame to add that kind of bulk. it's a big part of harden's game, too. if you're going to lurch into defenders every trip down, you have to be heavy and strong to maintain your balance. this is why not everyone can execute his particular brand of ref-baiting. i don't really mean this as a compliment, just a statement of fact.
     
    sirronstuff likes this.
  18. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,087
    Likes Received:
    60,058
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    SamsonMiodek, Weezy and Juronimo like this.
  19. Lakers2015

    Lakers2015 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    6,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline


    :MozgovYell:
     
    ZenMaster, alam1108 and trodgers like this.
  20. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,360
    Likes Received:
    76,465
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline

Share This Page