Official: Unsubstantiated Trade Suggestions, Speculation, And Rumors

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  1. Lakers2015

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    Rather just draft Simmons.
     
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    I have a feeling a scenario like you have proposed may end up happening.
     
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    This year you got to keep the pick and draft either Ingram or Simmons. No trades, especially with the C Bags. Let them deal with Darko 2.0
     
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    I said Bender because he seems to be the consensus #3.

    Nonetheless my point was that I believe Ingram is OUR #1 pick and if we can't get him we should at least look into trading the #2 for some talent and a pick further down in the draft.

    It's never a 2 person draft. There are always hidden gems and late bloomers.
     
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    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

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    Rumor is Philly wants both Simmons and Ingram (who doesn't?). They are offering Okafor and our #1 next year for the #2.

    I'd do it.

    Reasoning: Okafor can play. He's proven that. We don't know what the college kids will do. And we get that #1 back which could be a lottery pick again.

    If Okafor had the college season he had last year and was coming out this year, he'd likely be the #1 pick.

    Last reason: those mitts!
     
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    Where are you hearing this? That's intriguing...
     
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    I'm going to hard hard pass. Keep in mind whatever pick we get is likely to be in the teens. I think Ingram is still our best bet.

    Definitely something I kick around though.
     
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    Lakers Rumors from Chad Ford, ESPN

    The trade proposal Ford is talking about involved the Sixers sending Okafor and the Lakers' 2017 pick back to Los Angeles for the No. 2 overall pick, giving Philadelphia the top two picks in this year's draft.


    Some group on FaceBook called WorldWide Laker Gang is reporting Chad Ford said this. they have almost 1/2 a million people following them.
     
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    This is what I found on ESPN in regard to Okafor and Chad Ford:

    ‎Sources describe Okafor, at this early juncture, as the most likely of the two to be moved in the wake of his rocky rookie season off the floor.

    But the Sixers are known to be considering a wide range of possibilities, given the prospect of fellow lottery picks Embiid and Saric finally making their Philadelphia debuts next season to add to the Sixers' deep frontcourt and the well-chronicled concerns about whether Okafor and Noel can play together.

    After winning the recent draft lottery, Philadelphia is in the process of choosing whether to take LSU's Ben Simmons or Duke's Brandon Ingram with the first overall pick.

    Among the options the Sixers have is trying to trade Okafor or Noel for another high pick in the looming draft to address their backcourt needs or building a package around either one in a trade for veteran talent, either in June or in July after free agency starts.
     
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    I do not want Okafor.
     
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    No to Okafor.

    And no way should we trade the pick to the Sixers or C Bags. If its not Paul George, etc, then we should keep the pick. I'm not interested in more picks and definitely not interested in helping the C Bags land Simmons.
     
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    Okafor has game. He's insanely polished offensively for a kid his age, and considering the team around him last season, his numbers are pretty impressive. Once they got Ish Smith (an actual NBA caliber PG) in late December, here are Okafor's per 36 stats:

    23ppg, 8 boards, 1.3 blocks on 58% FG.

    Now, Philly used him a decent on the perimeter, and he was a decent playmaker at times, even though most people see him as just a low post threat. He can catch the ball 16 feet out and use an array of moves to get to the bucket and score with high efficiency.

    He's a 20/10 talent for a decade, easily. The question is whether we feel his skill set is going to translate into future playoff success.

    Truthfully, if Okafor was in this draft, I'm sure he'd be going 1-3, so it's not like the trade value isn't sufficient.
     
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    Okafor is Al Jefferson on a rookie contract. This isn't old news. I don't mind a postup center if he can provide rim protection. Okafor is primarily an offensive player.
     
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    Yeah the big issue is does he fit with what he have now?

    I wanted him last year because I love me some dominant big men. This kid is going to stuff stat sheets for a long time. The problem is: can he play the uptempo style of basketball we're trying to play and can he be a rim protector? I think the answer to those is either "never" or "not right now" so I'm not sure it's a good fit.

    I like him a lot though obviously. I would have taken him last year, but now? I'm just not sure it's a good fit with the roster as we go forward. We'd do better with a Center who can either take a jumper or protect the rim (preferably both but that describes almost no one).
     
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    Unless we're talking Bender....

    But like most young rookies, he's years from being a full time starter
     
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    I agree with everything you said. I do wonder if the GS model is the best course of action. IMO, if Cleveland was healthy last year, they're the champs. OKC has a couple big men who aren't really that skilled who are giving GS fits. Like you said, we need a rim protector. I don't think Okafor is that right now and he might not ever be. But a good starting point is his size. It'll always be a big mans league.

    Team A offers # 3 overall pick and a first round next year for
    Team Bs #2 overall pick.

    Ignore the names. That's just a trade every GM makes.
     
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    It's a no for me. Okafor doesn't seem to have the transcendent type of upper end that Simmons night and Ingram seems to have. I like Okafor, and I wanted us to draft him last year. I'm glad we didn't, as I think Russ is a gem, and I wouldn't want to trade the pick now. We need a defender down low. That ain't Okafor.
     
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    Completely agree. I see way more upside to Simmons or Ingram. Honestly, I felt pretty much the same about Russell last year.

    If Philly thought he had next level ability they would not be willing to trade him. The Colangelos know hoops and if their willing to ship out Okafor that says a lot to me. No one would get rid of a big man in his second season if they saw superstar potential.

    Thanks but no thanks.
     
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    Same as trodgers... only i never wanted us to draft Jah ;).
     
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