LLLLLeBron 3-5 Finals Record Without SuperTeam

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  1. sirronstuff

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    I would kill to have a court like that around here :dwightcrying:
     
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    Aaahhhh the good ol' crab dribble, a Lebron classic.
     
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    So I wanted to post this before the game but eh half time is good enough (and yes I know Cavs are currently destroying GS). Lebron is not now nor has he ever been the greatest to play the game. He is a super talented and physically imposing ball player but he is not what the media and many fans have made him out to be. A couple of years ago I started the Lebron thread on CL to discuss his actual short-comings and his talents but was blasted as a hater by, shockingly, several long standing CL members. What I said then still applies now.

    Lebron is a front runner whose game didn't evolve past bully ball. He does remind me of Shaq in the sense that he easily overpowers anyone he is up against and has used that and some serious non-offensive foul call love from the officials to his advantage. I can't hate him for that but I did point it out then and its still true now. The big thing for me though was his lack of a post game and his questionable defensive skill. I know Lebron is touted as being a defensive bad*** but that wasn't true then and isn't true now. He is great help/weakside shot blocker and he has above average anticipation from the weakside to get into passing lanes. Oddly enough he didn't even start playing defense until he got to see Kobe play in the Olympics. Prior to the Olympics Lebron was as passive as they came in the big games often being called out by "haters" for passing up shots, being afraid put the game on his shoulders and placing blame on his teammates or, in Mo Williams case, letting them take the blame. He doesn't have a killer instinct nor the tenacity of MJ, Bird, Magic, Kobe, Isiah T or even his ex-teamate and most hated C-Bag Ray Allen. Yup, I hate that fool but I feared no one else's jumper like his. The only reason Bron got to game 7 was cause of Ray's cold-blooded shot in game 6. I will give Bron credit for that game 7 against the spurs was the first time I had seen him actually show he was in fact the King the media made him to be. That being said, Chris Bosh, in my opinion, was the real MVP for Miami's rings but Bron got all the credit because when the teams play well he makes everyone better.

    Lebron is a stat stuffer and a front runner. If it wasn't for bonehead plays by Manu and Timmy he would have 1 ring. Maybe they come back and beat the Warriors this series. Maybe he takes over the games like Kobe against Portland. Maybe he goes off like Magic when Kareem went down. Maybe he finally shuts people like me up about his lack of a post game, his minimal mid-range ability and his over-hyped defense. The guy is amazing with size, speed and power. He just isn't, in my opinion, anywhere near being one of the greatest of all times. I know a lot will disagree with me and I'm fine with that being the case. I just didn't want the Cavs to lose and I say this and people think I was just being another hater jumping on the slam james bandwagon.
     
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    ^^preach
     
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    So the Cavs fans believe the NBA is using the Warriors to execute their agenda against LeBron. Lol
     
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    ^^^LOL and what agenda is that haha
     
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    Their agenda of... making money? LeBron gets to the Finals every season and the NBA makes tens of millions off of that. They have no anti-LeBron agenda, probably the opposite.
     
    therealdeal, Jun 11, 2016
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    http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9adad757f0ce657dfd28189ca9dd15d1ced91269/c=321-1123-2720-4322&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2015/11/29/USATODAY/USATODAY/635844268146905647-AP-NBA-Finals-C Bags-Lakers-Basketball.jpg

    5>2.
     
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    So I rewatched the Draymond/LeBron thing.

    Here's the deal. Cleveland was literally throwing elbows all game long. They were trying to bully the Warriors a lot like the C Bags did to us in 2008. So at this point in the game LeBron tangles with Draymond and Draymond falls down. LeBron tries to step over him to get Draymond to retaliate and maybe pick up that last tech. On the way up Dryamond says something like "you such a b****" or something like that. LeBron then freaks out and starts saying stuff like "I'm a b**** huh? Let's go. I'll show you what a b**** means" etc.

    Draymond doesn't back down. When the ball goes up, Draymond actually muscles up on LeBron and forces LeBron to foul. LeBron then waits until Frye gets back into the picture and then starts eylling at Draymond "you know I'm not a b****. You know I'm not a b**** man. Don't ever call me a b**** again."

    I find that kind of hilarious.

    1. Is that really the first time someone called you a ***** on the court? Why are you reacting so vehemently?
    2. He IS a ***** on the floor.
    3. He made this big sweeping threat, but didn't back it up at all. Like not even a little bit. Draymond went right back at him the last 3-4 minutes or so and never backed down for a second. LeBron didn't take the game over. He didn't bring the Cavs back. He didn't put the team on his back and force the Warriors to respond to him. Instead he missed a key free throw, let Curry beat him, then refused to try to take a three to cut the lead down when he had to. He picked a fight with Curry when he was just clearly following him the entire time. His attempt to bully Curry was so soft and weak. Congratulations you're picking on a dude who's 100 pounds lighter than you AFTER YOU ALREADY LOST.

    Soft. @sirronstuff cue me up that Kobe/Dwight soft gif!
     
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    That link is is non-functional, like LBJ's J these days... most games.
     
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    I seriously doubt Green flopped ...doesn't seem to have a history or the makeup of a flopper .... so the reason he was knocked off balance and went down was LeBron's arm swing or elbow at the end of their tangle. Like you mentioned. LeBron started the sequence before even stepping over him.

    Would love to know what LBJ said to Curry and what Curry said back to him with that sneer and mocking expression at the end of the game, when he was all over Curry physically fouling him in trying to keep him from the getting the inbounds pass, and Curry was complaining to the ref right in front of LBJ.
     
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    LLLLLeBron Ames.

    No J, five big Ls.
     
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    :Laugh:
     
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    Bron knows Green is a tech from suspension. Games all but over so he tries to get Green to get a Tech. If Green was suspended for game 5, odds are Cleveland wins. And odds are in theIr favor for game 6 at home. Anything can happen in a game 7.

    Not a bad strategy for the Kang since his skills aren't enough.
     
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    I see a lot of Dwight in Lebron. Both really really care what the media thinks of them. They care about their numbers. Both unskilled but are effective due to athletcism/size. Both don't have the killer instinct, weak mentally, soft.
     
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lebron...ose-to-being-crushed-yet-again-083048634.html

    Does LeBron ever think about what he's saying? He has said some of the most vapid, nonsensical things I've ever heard an athlete utter.

    "I'm all cool with the competition. I'm all fine with that, but some of the words that came out of his mouth were a little bit overboard," James said. "And being a guy with pride, a guy with three kids and a family, things of that nature, some things just go overboard and that's where he took it."

    What the hell does the bold part have to do with anything? What could Draymond have done to "go overboard" in a way that that line is relevant short of threaten the life or well-being of one of his kids? And if someone threatens to kill or harm your kids, I'm pretty sure you just say that. "Dude threatened to eat my children's hearts," for instance.
     
    trodgers, Jun 12, 2016
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    It ain't no secret (is this the correct sentence structure and grammar?)... Dray called him a "bit..".
     
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    Clearly a man with a family can't be a *****.

    Oh wait. Of course he can. The ability to marry and procreate doesn't preclude you from being weak mentally.
     
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    So stealing this :Laugh:
     
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