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  1. KB24

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    Sometimes its better to not do something rather than doing it...

    I'm very happy we didn't end up with Dragic.

    Dragic...90 mio. max contract. Averaging 12ppg and 5 apg. Age 30
    Wes Mathews...70 something 4 year max contract..13ppg and 3 rpg. Age 29
    Demarre Carroll...60 mio. 4 years...12ppg and 5 rpg...Age 29
    Robin Lopez...54 mio. for 4 years...8ppg and 6 rpg, 1.3 pbg...age 27
    Amir Johnson...2 years 24 mio. 8ppg and 6 rpg...age 29
    Enes Kanter... 4 years and 70 mio...averaging 11/8 and 0.5 blocks...23 years (at least can improve).

    When I look at some other smaller contracts like Aminu, Ellis and others...I see a lot of players that would have received like the MLE 5 years ago and are asking for max contracts.

    How the league has changed negatively.
     
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    It's going to get a lot worse with the new salary cap and WE sure going to end up with a couple of these ...

    Dragic is way better than he how looks with the Heat though ... Wade is too busy playing hero ball ...

    Dragic last couple of years of his current contract will look bad but it will be the case for lots of player's ones


    PS : You forgot DJ contract :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    Wes is coming off surgery. He was signed for longer duration based on what he'll do in the future (hopefully).
    Kanter's young, you're right.

    Overall, I'd say those are awful contracts, but this is what the NBA is becoming. Lots of people getting loaded up. Every team will probably have two or three max players going forward. That's 60-90 players getting max, and there aren't that many deserving.
     
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    :This:
     
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    Hopefully, we won't have a player on that list next year. :)

    Also, remember that Wes' original contract was for $57 million. After DeAndre Jordan bailed, he said he was still going to remain with the Mavs, and Mark Cuban basically gave him a $13 million bonus.
     
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    I never wanted Dragic and I'm glad he's with Miami instead.
     
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    I would have liked Dragic, but I'm happy with D'Angelo.

    I thought Robin Lopez's was bad. New York overpaid for him. I thought he'd come cheaper than that. Also, Porzingis has made the Lopez signing a little silly. Robin is better than his numbers indicate. I didn't like the Wes deal, but I liked the Carroll one. I also thought Carroll was an overpay, but it weakened Atlanta and it was a solid type of add for the Raptors who needed a solid type of add.

    Honestly the one I thought was the worst was Kanter. He is as one-dimensional as they get and while he's young and can improve, I don't think he will.
     
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    i watch a lot of mavs games, and wes is worth his contract, imo. on and off the court, he's a guy i want in my organization.

    for similar reasons, i think carroll was a good signing for toronto. i think atl misses him. bazemore is no carroll.

    i don't watch as much knicks, but i feel like robin lopez does for them what he did for phx and portland: helps them win games despite limited box score impact.

    i actually am not liking what i've seen in the few games i've watched tobias harris.

    dragic, as others have said, isn't being used the same way, but he doesn't look like the all nba guy, that's for sure.

    amir johnson is LOLstatnerdz material.

    kanter is who we (everyone except okc) thought he was. why didn't they just keep reggie jackson and play him 30+mpg off the bench? instead, they start a back of the rotation player in roberson and continue to employ dion waiters. i don't get much of what okc has done since drafting durant/westbrook/harden.
     
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    Dion Waiters is simply not a good basketball player.

    Also if you're looking at bad contracts, let's talk about the Pelicans:

    Omer Asik: 5/53 million.
    Alexis Ajinca: 4/20 million.

    Omer is averaging 3/4.8/0.4 in 16 minutes this season.
     
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    but asik is teh best...cuz morey.
     
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    OKC failed in bringing the right supporting cast around KD and Russ ( mainly a 3 and D at the 2) , not developping Lamb ...

    Harden and Jackson both wanted a bigger role .

    Should have get a better return for Reggie than Waiters though .

    He's a disaster
     
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    they had sefalosha and let him walk. they also let martin walk after the harden trade. both are on reasonable salaries, too. they just haven't done anything right in a long time, imo.
     
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    They will go as far as KD and Russ takes them.

    They go
    1, 2


    3-5















    Everyone else.

    Their worse FA signing is not signing good ones to round out the team around the two stars.
     
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    I'm still a Tobias fan. I think he's going to be a borderline all-star for the next decade. He's adding some things to his game every year. The three isn't falling as well, but he's working on rebounding and assisting better.
     
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    eh, I admit I don't watch them a lot. when I do, I'm just not blown away. seems like a tweener sixth man; kinda antawn Jamison without the feathery touch.
     
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    During the summer, I said he was overrated, and we'd be better off grabbing Jeremy Lin for less $$ than signing him.

    Jeremy Lin's numbers in Charlotte this year.

    12.2ppg and 3apg in 26 minutes. 6 fewer minutes than Dragic.

    Very glad we passed on him.
     
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    I don't think Dragic is overrated. I just don't think he fits well with Wade. Both are ball dominant players. Wade has never played with a ball dominant point guard. With that said I'm also glad we passed on him because Russell will be a better point guard than him and as we've seen this year can be effective off the ball.
     
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    Lebron and Wade were both ball dominant players. Both figured out how to play together and win championships.

    If you're being paid max money like Dragic is, there's no excuse for not playing like a max money player.

    There's a huge difference between true max money players like Lebron and Wade, and overpaid/overrated players like Dragic.
     
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    There's a difference between being overpaid and overrated. Just because Miami overpaid him I don't think that means he's overrated. With the cap going up a lot of players will be overpaid, but that doesn't mean they're overrated as players. We're not even half way through the season so Dragic and Wade could still find a way to play together and make it work. Not all players can do it.
     
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    I get the point you're making rev, but comparing him to LeBron is like killing an ant with a sledgehammer.

    I'd definitely say Dragic is underperforming and he was overrated during the summer, but I DO think he's a lot better than what he's doing right now statistically in Miami. There's just suddenly a lot of mouths to feed. Since when has Wade been this healthy? Bosh is back and now Whiteside needs more touches. Suddenly Dragic is a max player turned 4th fiddle.
     
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