Byron Scott Discussion 2015-16 - FIRED!!! (PAGE 172)

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  1. Savory Griddles

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    Calling it right now. Ollie will be our next head coach, our pick (if we keep it) will be sent out in a trade for a good to really good player, and Durant will be signing here with another top free agent.

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    I mean it's a pipe dream, but that's GOT to be what the Lakers are looking at. It just HAS to be something they're considering and hearing that Ollie is high on our list is so incredibly encouraging after the lows we reached this last season.

    You hire Ollie and suddenly we've got credibility again not just with fans, but with other coaches and more importantly other players. Players like this guy a lot and I don't just mean the important one (Durant obviously). I mean everyone is really into this guy as a coach and I'm excited about that prospect.

    Say we do hire him and say we do keep the pick... I might actually get excited about Laker basketball again. Regardless of whether or not we keep the pick, we'd have a coach who is competent and young players worth watching. If we trade the pick and say Lou Williams/Nance Jr. or some such thing for Butler... I mean things really start looking up, that's for sure.
     
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    On my phone so I can't give links to tidbits I like about him, so I'll keep it short.

    To start he was in my list of coaches that I wanted the Lakers to go get (Thibs, Blatt, Ollie).

    1.) Accomplished - He's done it all overseas, he's won and won multiple times. Multiple coach of the years, multi champion. One year in the NBA and he's already in the Finals. The resume, compared to other candidates is there, how much it translates varies from person to person, but to me it holds weight because he's won, he's done it at that level and that's a good asset to have for these young guys looking to get to the top.

    2.) He can adapt - He was brought to CLE to rebuild with all the young guys and then suddenly was thrust into win now mode. He took it in stride and took Lebron and a bunch of role players to a pretty impressive Finals performance under heavy scrutiny. I remember BBallBreakdown raving about how good the offense looked early in the season and then suddenly went to crap when Lebron went into douche mode. He can make things work.

    3.) He's not afraid to sit players to win games/Accountability - He put Love on the bench so many times in crunch time because he didn't play defense. He didn't buy into the he's a star he has to play stuff. He's going to make the best decisions to win ball games and make players work for it. I respect a coach that goes against the grain like that. Much like Pop does.

    4.) Reputation - Past players of his love him and have nothing but praise. I don't know what went on in CLE, but IMO a lot of it had to do with Lebron and his group of s*** sticks. Lebron tried the same crap with Spo and with Lue (Coaching for him and Iman throwing a towel on Lue). Other than Lebron and DMC, there aren't really big douche bags that do that stuff so while I'm skeptical that he might not relate to NBA players, I'd like to think the environment was toxic and not him. Still though that's a wavering points with me. IMO I think he would be good with the young guys that aren't douche bags and want to work to get better.

    He's not Mike Brown, Brown couldn't coach worth a s*** and I hated watching his CLE teams. Blatt's team was actuall enjoyable to watch when they weren't in Lebron ISO mode. I don't get that Brown or Scott vibe from him.

    I think Blatt is the most well rounded and prepared for the job.

    Ollie or Blatt and I'm ecstatic, I lean towards Blatt because he's the safer bet between the two but I would be happy either way.

    Luke - He isn't ready to be a head coach. I think people are jumping the gun on him being a head coach by a couple years. I want him to take some lumps and bounce back.

    Brooks - I was more than happy when he signed with Was. He's good with young players but man other than that there is nothing to be looking forward to with him.

    Jackson - Mehhh average signing
    Fisher - Hell no
    Rambis - Hell no (No Phil people l, another reason I don't like Walton)
    Messina - I don't think he leaves Pop that's a good replacement gig for him.

    I'd be happy with a no namer assistant coach as well, but that takes extremely good coach scouting, something that we have none of.
     
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    I don't go online for a day, and this happens. Wow. The long winter of our discontent is ending. A new season is dawning. With Kobe's departure and Byron's shadow over the team I was losing hope. Now, I'm suddenly energized.

    I'm all in on Luke - Ollie. If Ollie brings Durant he is the guy. If not, I prefer Luke. But either one is a massive win compared to the last three disasters.
     
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    go offline for a week, we might get Jim outta there
     
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    Butler was sort of the guy I was thinking of. There's obviously some sort of contention there. Trade Lou, Clarkson and the #1 pick for Butler. Sign Durant and Whiteside to max deals. Sign Bazemore and Pau to smaller deals.

    Whiteside/Pau
    Randle/Pau/Nance
    Durant/Bazemore
    Butler/Bazemore
    Russell/?
     
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    Ireland (Laker mouthpiece) was not high on Blatt at all which I found unfortunate. I'm not as high on Blatt as you are, but I'm not down on him as much as LeBron was.

    Ireland did bring up a great point though: the Lakers are looking for a guy who can help draw FAs and that list is short. Luke, Ollie, and Thibs are definitely on that list. Someone like Messina might be on that list. Jackson, Rambis, Fisher, and _______ really won't help draw anyone at all.

    Blatt's only experience in the NBA he was ridiculed and ran out of town in a public and unfortunate way. Whether or not it's his fault, his reputation among current players is really poor. It's definitely something I hadn't thought about, but will hurt his ability to get this gig.
     
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    Hearing that the front runners are Luke and Ollie are great. This decision can be the starting point for us to be back where we belong.

    I think Ollie edges out Luke just a little bit because he has more experience as a coach and can develop our kids. It's 1A and 1B situation for me.
     
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    no ettore Messina?
     
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    Just imagining if Luke gets the job when he gets introduced in starting lineups next season the chants of Lukkkkkkkkeeeeee raining down.
     
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    Hope that continues this year; we could use that pick.
     
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    I know Blatt isn't Brown (or Scott)... but I just don't like the idea of getting another Cavaliers reject.
     
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    It's not right, but LeBron effectively ruined Blatt for a lot of players in the league.
     
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    He has, but I still believe Blatt can regain respect within the league if he goes to coach somewhere else and has success. If he does that I don't think anyone is gonna care about what happened in Cleveland. They know the hand he was dealt. Like I said not my first choice, but if Luke says no (can't imagine that) or Ollie opts to stay with Connecticut it would be between Blatt and Messina imo.
     
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    How ridiculous was it for Magic to double down on Byron's greatness as a coach?
     
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    For Magic to say Byron will be coaching again soon...I mean...I can't fathom a franchise giving him another head coaching gig. In fact, I can't fathom another coach bringing him on as an assistant. Is Magic oblivious to his dreadful record? He's had players like Jason Kidd, Kyrie Irving and Chris Paul. Yet he still has the worst record of any coach with at least 1,000 games. It's almost a credit to Byron that with those players, he still managed to find a way to rack up this record. I can't imagine it will ever be broken because no one with this sort of ineptitude would be allowed to coach this long in the league to get to 1,000 games.
     
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    I recall reading a report last week that Luke was going to interview with the Kings. Had that been debunked or confirmed? I'm mainly wondering if Luke had given any indication that he's willing to interview and take another job during the post-season. Because if we're trying to get the coach search out of the way before the lottery, that probably gives Ollie a huge edge if Luke feels the need to wait until after the playoffs.
     
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    yup...and one of the reasons the FO let Byron go was because he could affect FA signings


    if we do end up with Blatt (just typing that disappointed me), we should go after LeBron in free agency...just for comedy...
     
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