Byron Scott Discussion 2015-16 - FIRED!!! (PAGE 172)

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    Ship his a** out already. Before he even reaches the locker room after the last game. Drop the hammer. Put this [​IMG] down.



    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ns-los-angeles-lakers-should-fire-byron-scott


    Rounding Up the Reasons Los Angeles Lakers Should Fire Byron Scott
    By Michael Pina, Los Angeles Lakers Lead Writer Apr 7, 2016

    Los Angeles Lakers was even worse than the first, when they set a franchise record with 61 losses. Heading into their Friday night contest against the New Orleans Pelicans, they're at 62 losses with four games left in the year.

    From Halloween to April Fools’ Day, each day seemingly delivered a new controversy: Scott’s off-putting obsession with machismo, D’Angelo Russell’s infantile performance art, Julius Randle’s broken jump shot, Kobe Bryant’s distracting melodrama—the list goes on. This entire year has been a steady avalanche of interference.

    All the team’s problems do not lead back to Scott. He didn’t build the roster or know on opening night that Kobe would railroad the organization’s short-term objective—meaning their clear, albeit shortsighted intention to win basketball games—by announcing his retirement.

    But Scott’s inability to handle what he should be able to—nightly effort, execution, scheme, player development, minute distributions, etc.—was, and continues to be, a big part of the problem.



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    Byron Scott was not put in the best of situations with the Lakers; he also didn't do himself any favors during his first two seasons.


    Of course, Scott’s job is to play the cards he’s dealt, and Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak has dealt him a losing hand. Instead of experimenting with NBA Developmental League call-ups or making any move at the trade deadline to open up a roster spot, there was silence.

    But the best coaches extract juice from the driest fruit. Scott didn't.



    Squandered Player Development


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    With the playoffs never obtainable, Byron Scott missed a golden opportunity to develop the future.


    As a rebuilding organization, the Lakers’ No. 1 priority should be developing Russell, Randle, Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., Tarik Black and Anthony Brown. That’s it. To Scott’s credit, Clarkson, Randle and Russell will finish first, second and third in total minutes played. Nance will finish eighth, and Black may not crack 500 minutes.

    But sometimes it feels as if those first three youngsters wound up atop the minutes list by accident. Russell came off the bench in 32 of his 76 games. Randle came off the bench in 21 of his 77. Instead of pushing them through adversity, Scott kept his core on a short leash.



    Both players have made noticeable strides since opening night, but is that because of Scott’s tough love or in spite of it? It's hard to say. Would they have been better off playing through adversity against opposing starting lineups and learning from their missteps on the fly?

    Before the All-Star break, Russell spent many a fourth quarter on the sidelines, limiting his experience and potentially damaging his learning curve. This isn't the end of the world, but it remains a head-scratcher looking back, considering the Lakers are still the worst team in the Western Conference.



    Strategic Struggle


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    Byron Scott's system relied far too heavily on isolation basketball in 2015-16.

    At this point in the season, it’s fair to question whether L.A.’s offensive system stunted the young core's growth. All in all, it’s been an iso-heavy plan of attack this year, with only marginal improvements to ball movement.

    No team attempted more contested three pointers than this one, and no team averaged fewer secondary assists, per NBA.com/Stats.

    Defensively, the Lakers have allowed the most points in the paint and the third-most fast-break points per game.

    These were issues on opening night that festered throughout the year. And ultimately, we never saw a change that should give Lakers fans much hope heading into next season.



    Despite averaging 6.1 points and 4.9 rebounds per game, Roy Hibberthas played in all but one game this year. Out of every player who appeared in at least 60 games, Hibbert’s minus-17.8 net rating ranks dead last.

    Bryant and Randle come in second- and third-worst, respectively.



    Questionable Lineups
    The thought of inserting Black into the starting lineup was apparently never possible, or even experimenting with Randle at center and letting him feast against slower defenders. Small-ball has dissolved over the past few weeks, with Scott reaching into his back pocket for lineups that feature three non-shooting bigs at once.

    Nance, Ryan Kelly and Brandon Bass appeared on the floor at the same time in five games since the All-Star break. That’s nonsensical.



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    Another relatively minor example: Earlier this week, Scott abruptly removed Bass and Lou Williams from L.A.’s rotation. From a team-building perspective, neither veteran is a good fit, even though both have been remarkably consistent and professional throughout the year. They provide more production than the money they’re owed, but each player's signing was a mistake.

    Benching Bass and Williams for younger pieces always made sense, but it took Scott until April to figure it out. “I’ve talked to both those guys about [getting benched]; in case something crazy happens, they’ll be available and ready to play,” he said. “But right now I’m going to stick with Tarik coming in and playing more minutes, then I’m going to stick with a three-guard rotation for a little while.”

    A big bowl of too little, too late.

    Scott was put in a terribly uncomfortable spot, but those are the breaks in a league with 30 teams existing on 30 separate life cycles. Not everyone can have a ton of talent, and the Lakers are at the ground floor trying to work their way up.

    That’s an unfortunate situation for any coach to be in, but Scott managed to make his a lot worse than it needed to be. It’s an uphill climb no matter what, but Scott unnecessarily steepened his ascent.



    All quotes in this article were obtained firsthand unless otherwise noted. Stats courtesy of NBA.com.
     
  3. Weezy

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    I agree with the message of the article, and all the points, but this bit was being too fair to B0ron

    Our roster isn't fantastic, it's mediocre, it's average. So that should lead to a mediocre record, not the 2nd worst in the NBA. Compared to last season especially, this team has been incredibly healthy. Key players have hardly missed any games. Out of our top 7 players, none has played less than 62 games, and Nance is just behind at 59. Russ, Randle, and JC have played 76, 77, and 75 games respectively. The roster, or lack of trades, or D-League call-ups (LOL) are not legit excuses to be 16-62. GTFO B0ron.
     
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    The C Bags talent is mediocre. So is Dallas. As well as Portland and a team like Charlotte. Yet they're all worlds better than us. Sure making the playoffs as such a young ball club would've been an uphill battle, but so was it for all those teams and most except maybe Boston weren't expected to be in the thick of things in the postseason race and they're. It's all about superior coaching. Having an actual system, actually teaching instead of just calling guys out in the media and trying to act like a drill sergeant, putting rotations on the court that actually make some damn sense, having some structure in place on both ends of the court, and being an actual leader. That doesn't mean telling a rookie to man up and asking them if they've been in fist fights. It's about actually sitting them down and explaining them what they're doing wrong and how to best go about to fixing it. Letting them make mistakes. Not benching your #2 pick for taking over. Not playing bums like Kelly or washed up guys like World Peace, Hibbert really has no business starting him anymore, but Good lord starting him along with Kobe and at times World Peace is just a disaster. No athleticism, no speed or quickness, no spacing, playing D-Lo with Huertas who dominates the ball and he is resorted to just playing off ball, letting Kobe take shots like its 2006, not playing the best lineups, not playing the young guys with each other enough. I could go on and on. There should be no excuses. Yes we probably aren't good enough to be a playoff team, but we should not be a f***ing embarrassment.
     
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    Could we please just get this guy out of here as soon as possible.
     
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    I was a little skeptical at first, but I've now come around to the idea that we should give Luke a shot. He's my number one choice to replace Byron.
     
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    According to Ireland, he has a source that has said that due to Kerr's recurring back condition that causes excruciating pain and extremely limits him from traveling with the team and/or just the grind of the NBA season, he might not finish out his 5 year deal with GS. Apparently, Luke is the heir apparent if that's the case....
     
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    That said, provided we terminate Scott, the three guys that are probably going to get a serious look are: Thibs, Luke (if he is willing to even entertain leaving GS), and Brooks.

    We can deduce that by just looking at the coaching candidates who ate and might be available.
     
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    We all know it is way past time
    For Jeannie to do what can make Sirron not have to rhyme

    Not just for this organization
    but for all of us in this great Laker Nation

    Childish behavior and bad decisions which reeks of a moron
    By an ex Laker great known sadly.. singly... as Boron

    Jeannie we beg you, please make haste
    We cannot stand another season of waste

    If you cannot do it for us
    Then please remember your father, the late.. great.. Dr. Buss

    When we saw Boron's head lined up in the site
    Most clamored too far, that can't be right

    Now the indignation of going too far
    Is replaced with chants of "I'll run the _ _ _ _ _ _ over with my car!"

    Jeannie please save us while you still can
    Laker Nation hopes and prays that there is some Master Plan

    The flagship of the NBA is in a very saddened state
    Leaving the fans full of Boronic hate

    The glorious lore and mystique of Laker legends past
    Dims and weakens.. please do something fast

    Before I go.. I beg you one more time
    Make the decision so Sirron does not have to rhyme
     
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    :dwightcrying: So. Beautiful.

    I'm only rhyming to be dutiful
     
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    This would leave nothing nothing to chance with the FO
    Don't trust them to not again BLOW

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    Makes sense. Who would you rather coach at this point? Yeah, I thought so.

    Ok, so go get Kevin Ollie.
     
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    Made a case for whom I thought the Lakers should replace Scott with here. Was wondering what you guys thought?
     
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    I don't watch college ball much, so I don't know about Smart as a coach. I like the general thought of moving away from what we've done with our past few hires - older, entrenched white dudes. I think we need a different approach, and going younger is a good start. That's why I want us to hire Becky Hammon.
     
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    Smart is a bold move. There are a lot of things I like about him and I do think he could reach our young guys.

    On the other hand, not sure how excited vets would be to play for him. We are already such a long shot for free agents that I'm not sure we can take a gamble here.

    It's also hard for me to pass on a guy like Thibs or some of the better Assistants out there.

    We can't screw this up again. We have to have a coach that can at least get us back to respectability. I like Smart but he's a bit too risky for me at this point in time.
     
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    I'll toss my hat in the Thibs ring (it's been there in the past). He does so much for us.

    Immediate stability and respectability.
    Attracts FAs.
    Begins from day 1 to instill a defensive mindset.

    I don't know that he's the guy to take us to a championship though. In fact, I think he's not. I think he's more likely to wear down our players in the long run and fail to get the most from them. That's why I think that a three-year deal with Thibs and a younger, more outside-the-box hire, someone who can play the long game, is a better move than going all-in on either Thibs or a younger coach now.

    Rebuilds take time. We're in that slow, plodding part of the rebuild. It's the worst time, but I think we're on the verge of moving up the hill again. We could - and perhaps should - be in the playoffs in two seasons. I don't want to do another one of these half-arsed rebuilds that get us barely into the playoffs and then bankrupt us for the foreseeable future. We need the long game.
     
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    I think, and the Bulls season(s) since his departure seems to support it, that his "overworking" his players has been overstated.
    He just happened to have the brittlest MVP and starting C.
     
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    I wasn't for hiring Thibs earlier this season, but now he looks like a fantastic candidate, because like trodgers said he's respected and immediately brings back some credibility. Plus our core is so young I don't really worry about him wearing them out. If we can't get Luke, I absolutely go after Thibs right away. I also like Ollie, and if it helps with Durant I'm not as opposed to Brooks as I was. I don't know enough about Smart to say one way or the other. I know he's a great motivator, defensive guy, but I don't know what kind of offense he runs or if he's any smarter or more creative than B0ron in that department.
     
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