LLLLLeBron 3-5 Finals Record Without SuperTeam

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  1. therealdeal

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    To be fair he's playing hard lately. His last seven games: 26.6/6.6/7.0 with a steal and 0.4 blocks. He really is trying to push it, but I think he's realized this team doesn't have enough and he's quite literally packing his bags for the summer.

    I genuinely would not be shocked if he leaves this summer. For where and for how much? I don't know. I know everyone is saying he couldn't possibly do it, but I don't know if that's true anymore. At the very least he's going to demand half the team get traded away. He's going to want Love and Kyrie gone and his buddies brought in.

    He's going to try to force Love to NY for Carmelo and Kyrie to LAC for Chris Paul. I can almost hear him yelling at David Griffin to get that done right now.
     
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    Easier for him to walk than make all those trades. I'd put him leaving Cleveland at about 75%.
     
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    Agreed. This behavior is eerily reminiscent of when he left Cleveland the first time.

     
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    How much better do you think Cavs will be with Wiggins still there instead of Love. Love gives them an interesting dimension offensively but they are better defensively without him.

    But seriously, how much help does he need? Or maybe he's just not good at recognizing what he needs? He came to the Cavs knowing Kyrie is there and essentially got Love traded there, forced them to over pay for Thompson, etc.
     
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    Yeah this is his bed and it seems to me now he doesn't want to lay in it. Trading Wiggins for Love was a mistake. Either Love really isn't as good as his numbers played out or he seriously doesn't want to be there anymore. I think it's both.

    I think Love, Kyrie, and LeBron all made it on the team and figured "We HAVE to do this, there's too much talent and opportunity to waste it here." Now they're figuring out that playing with LeBron isn't all that fun and isn't even all that successful. I think all three of them would be better off without one of the other if that makes sense.

    I think Kyrie/Love or Love/LeBron or Kyrie/LeBron would all work better than the three of them. And they'd all work better with Wiggins attached too.

    Still though, LeBron made this team. He forced them to overpay for all those crappy players. Now he's going to run away? He'll never go back to Cleveland again if he leaves that team again. They'll never want him around.
     
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    ...critics have vilified Bryant for his hard driving ways when it came to his teammates but it produced success, respect for his workman like attitude from his peers and people around him even though it was not sexy to be praised by sports channels such as ESPN. Yes he was obsessive but all the great ones were...

    This James preens when things go well, usually takes credit and pouts when it is the opposite. Even if he had compliant teammates like a Gasol or an Odom, I don't believe it would have worked out and they would have soured on him immediately. He and Harden represent what is the opposite of players like Curry or Anthony Davis.
     
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    To be fair to LeBron, he made those comments about Melo, cp3, and Wade in February at like the All-Star break or something, so it wasn't part of this latest pouting and hostage-holding. Ok, enough of that, blech. The comments themselves are pathetic to a fan of parity in the NBA like we have usually, if not always had. Wanting to make a mini-Olympic team, to play with all your best buddies, so everyone gets along and is happy and blah blah blah, that's gross to me. No all time great I can think of would try to or want to do this, they wanted to win on their own team and beat the other NBA greats. Lame.
     
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    They wouldn't win anyway. A team full of old , over the hill geezers isn't gonna win it all. It's a young man's game and all of those guys except maybe Paul have seen their best days.
     
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    watch the NBA roll out the red carpet on lebron and his friends forming a superteam

    yet the lakers acquiring cp3 was somehow worse and would have ruined the league
     
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    ... they're still making the Finals :(.
     
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    This is a big deal because..?

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    They start SportsCenter saying LeBron James soars past MJ blah blah blah. Uh, ok, great, you played a lot of playoff games. If they want to talk about passing him in WINS, that's one thing, but games played? That's not necessarily a good thing, that could mean you played more because you couldn't close series or went to some 6/7 game series while MJ won quicker. I still think the more important records are Finals record, MJ 6-0, Kobe 5-2, LeBron 2-4. Congrats, LeBron.
     
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    ESPN will take every stat and make it a big deal in favor of Lebron.
    They pick and choose all to prop up the Queen.
    I'm surprised that one year they released the graphic of players that beat 50+ win teams in the playoffs. Lebron was at the bottom with 7(?), Kobe at the top with ~20.
     
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    You just don't understand Lebron' greatness, Weezy.
     
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    This is why I entertained the thought of this kid high in the draft last season before I knew we had the 2nd pick.

    He may not be the most talented kid, but he's got exactly the kind of attitude I want in a young player. He's completely unafraid.
     
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    Just posted by Sportscenter... What planet is this??
     
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    Tyronne is just being a smart coach supporting his player publicly through the press. Doesn't matter if it's accurate, the player appreciates it.

    He also thought Tristan should have more consideration for 6th man of the year.

    :Laugh:

    Remember what he's trying to overcome....

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    Is Stephen Curry actually turning ESPN against LeBron?
     
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