Byron Scott Discussion 2015-16 - FIRED!!! (PAGE 172)

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    As much as I want to blame Byron and hate on him for not prioritizing the development of the young core, I am concerned with how terrible Russell, Randle, and Clarkson and the rest of the starting unit have been playing. Maybe they hit the rookie wall or something but it seems like they regressed the past couple of games or don't know how to adjust to the adjustments the opposing teams have made after implementing the "new" offensive set or whatever. The offense takes forever to set up and there is hardly any movement or spacing. On one play, Russell and Clarkson bumped into each other and I think both tried to go to the same spot on offense. And when the vets/bench come in, the offense looks way better as they know how to attack and get into their offense quickly.

    Games like this show that the Lakers have a LONG way to go. Russell, Randle, and Clarkson still need to learn a lot more and gain more experience. Obviously, the best way to do that is by playing more. So instead of trying to win these pointless games with vets and still end up losing, play the young guys! Focus on next season even though you won't be here next season, Byron!
     
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    What do you expect? You pair them with two huge liabilities and you don't think they're gonna struggle? There's no spacing for them to do anything. Everything is clogged up. Not to mention we can't run because they're so freaking slow. Doesn't help none of these guys get a chance to establish a rhythm. That's why you don't wait till March to install a freaking system.
     
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    I'll make one excuse for those three, which is based on fact, but will say I do agree they need to play better.....

    Try running an offense with Roy and MWP when the defense doesn't even bother to guard them. Ron is shooting 28% on the season, no one guards him unless he's by the hoop, Roy no one guards him unless he's by the hoop. Youngsters need to play better, but look at the bigger picture and how defenses play them knowing that they don't need to pay attention to two guys on the court.
     
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    Yes, Roy and MWP are terrible on offense. But it's not like a lineup of Huertas, Lou Will, RKelly, Nance, and Bass is a great offensive lineup with great shooters either and they are looking WAY better than the starters the past couple of games.
     
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    Sticking Nick Young into the starting lineup would help but then again BS has ruined him to the point where I don't think he even goes by Swaggy P anymore.

    Black instead of Roy would help too, he's more active and a great roller. But of course he's in the dog house for whatever stupid reason BS has.
     
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    There is still a lot more activity and spacing with that lineup with guys like Bass and Nance as opposed to ours. That lineup has been horrendous defensively. Whatever they've scored they've pretty much given up. Yes the kids have to play better, but they also need to be allowed to play through their mistakes and not be yanked after six minutes and disrupt their rhythm.
     
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    I think we're in agreement but have two different attitudes toward this. I agree that the bench unit is horrible defensively and definitely won't help in the long run. The thing is the young core has to step it up. They only had 5 points with 5:09 left in the first quarter against the freakin' Suns before any substitution was made. And the offensive struggles have happened for three games in a row against defenses ranked in the bottom third. After beating the Warriors and Magic and hanging with the Cavs most of the game and seeing the great potential, I am confused as to why and how they fell so hard. Maybe they did hit the rookie wall. I don't know but I guess these are the struggles of a young team.

    And I agree with you in that they should be playing no matter what because what do we have to lose.
     
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    It's the struggles of a young team. It's the growing pains that we all knew would happen. That's why they need to be playing so they can get the experience and be able to continue to grow and improve together. No core that young is gonna be consistently great. They'll have great stretches and bad stretches. That's part of being so young.
     
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    I'm not trying to make excuses, but I'm pretty sure the young 3 have quit on B0ron. They had reached an all time high in confidence, they were playing well, then all of a sudden they have a bad game, get stuck on the bench to finish the game, and things haven't been the same since. Kobe coming back didn't help aside from the GS win, and then Lou came back too. Now B0ron is running bench lineups of Huertas, Lou, Kelly, Nance, and Bass, and letting them finish games. If I were those kids I'd say "f*** it I'm done" too. He's lost them for good, and if he's brought back for next season I can see them staging some kind of revolt through the media. B0ron's an idiot, he's about "winning first" with ridiculous lineups, half of which, hell maybe most of which, won't be here next season. I don't care if the kids are playing like s***, there are 13 games left, let them play through it, their development is the ONLY thing that matters from this season.
     
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    Yeah, I'm just frustrated that just last week I was so excited that the future might be here sooner than I expected. But after this week, now I think we still have a long time to go.
     
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    There are no excuses for this guy. He has a much better squad than last year, a relatively healthy Kobe who will have played about 60 games, a terrific young core and some decent vets . . . and he's going to end up with a worse record than last year. In fact, it'll be a new franchise low. That's not acceptable. He better not get rewarded for this tank job. It stinks. I hate the way he treated the young guns this season. I will be PO'd if he ends up coaching them again next season. That would just be horrible. I don't know if any of us can stand to watch that horror show.
     
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    Can you imagine how the young guns are going to feel when Scott is finally fired. As bad as we hate watching, just think how hard it would be to have to endure that as a player. The next coach, whoever it is, is going to be the beneficiary of very good players feeling like they just got a pardon off of death row. I understand their up and down emotion to the games. No one could be mentally prepared for that onslaught every day.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that what we're seeing is our young core, having shown off to their talents to the world, quietly going into tank mode. There are 13 games left and all they have to do is lose to teams like Phoenix and they're that much closer to getting Simmons or Ingram in the draft. You really think Clarkson, Russell and Randle couldn't shoot better than 5-32 against one of the worst teams in the league? You think Rusell doesn't want his good friend Simmons to come to LA? You think these guys don't realize they have nothing to gain at this point by winning? Especially after erupting after the all-star break and silencing their critics? 13 games left, and all they have to do is not win. The older guys clearly have too much pride to tank, but the young core is keeping their collective eye on the prize.
     
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    This is one I would double or triple like if possible....lol I love Laker Fans, a whole different level...
     
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    He should have never been hired. Period.
     
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    as others have been mentioning, I can't figure out why roy's getting burn at this point. should be taking a (hopefully last) look at sacre and real look at black heading into the summer. we know what roy brings, and sadly, it's not much. if the lakers really wanted to treat him right, they would have bought him out at the deadline and let him hook on with a contender as a backup.

    if he was a rookie, he'd have been in woodbutttown months ago.

    btw, I'm sure the vets would be ok with having their minutes scaled back at this point. all of them. stay healthy and not have to be part of the nightly whipping awaiting them. what's lou, or bass, or roy going to prove in the next few weeks?

    I want to see 35+ minutes for ALL of the young guys, even brown's worthless a**. gotta take stock of what you've got heading into the offeason. I know what lou, bass, and roy can do. they're all solid bench players in this league. keep them healthy (for their sake or ours), and make some decisions about which youngsters have enough to warrant investing in them.

    maybe this rant is for the FO, though. pretty sure that they could control Byron at this point if they wanted.
     
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    Black should be starting. Nick should start if Kobe can't go. Then Wed have a starting lineup with more energy and the ability to get up and down the court and run one.
     
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    Run pnr
     
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    But that would be too sane and obvious.
     

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