http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2...urray-details-julius-randles-emerging-jumper/ Good in-depth, insightful, interview with Tracy Murray's interview on Randle's shot and the improvement.
^^ Great read, thanks for that RandleROFY. Murray's help really is paying off and you can see exactly what he's talking about regarding Randle's early version of shooting - launching it up there like a cannon, versus now where he's taking a little more time and he's got more touch. It's great that it's easy to see the work he's putting in and it's making a difference. It took Griffin and Ibaka some years to put together their outside shots. Like Murray said, Randle's still a rookie - he's only played 40 something NBA games and he's coming back from a brutal injury. I'm pretty blown away by the kid, but I have been since day one. He's got a serious motor, and a strong work ethic.
The changing speeds has been what I've noticed. He's not bulling his way to the rim as much these days. It's all about making your move then taking whatever shot the give you. Kobe was surgical with that and Julius is starting to see it too. They're playing off of you? Step back and take the jumper. They're playing you up tight? Make a strong move and blow past them. Obviously that's 101, but lately I've seen him take his man off the dribble and if they cut him off he'll counter spin away from it. Beautiful and simple. He looked great against Chicago and I think that's just the beginning for him. It took Kobe years to develop his go-to moves.
interesting that he said he doesn't plan on tweaking mechanics, invoking sam perkins. this means we're unlikely to see a real jumpshot from randle any time soon. i think that's limiting, but murray's the expert here. my issue is that if you don't shoot a real jumper (and instead shoot more of a push-shot like randle), then you only have one real option on the closeout: go to the hoop--and all the way to the hoop. i liked that little spin/fade he was shooting in the preseason; that was more technically a "real" jumper. i think he'll need at least those types of intermediate shots to become a consistent 15+ scorer. still, good to hear that murray seems encouraged.
Everyone was so quick to write him off which made no sense whatsoever. It was clear as day Julius just like D'Angelo was gonna take some time. He was a work in progress. He wasn't just gonna come in and light the league on fire off the bat. Both of them are clearly getting better as time goes along.
It doesn't mean Randle isn't gonna be able shoot a jumper. As Murray said it means he has to continue to not rush his shot and learn how to shoot properly with his form. There's been many guys as he also talked about who had unorthodox shooting forms that could shoot the ball just fine.
very good read, thanks for sharing this. Last night he also went up against another versatile defender in Taj Gibson, who is no slouch.
seriously, how is it possible that I've missed all of randle's good games and catch only the Milwaukee games? by random chance, I have to see at least one of these 20/10s. he did have a couple nice drive and dunk attempts in this one (fouled and missed fts on both). the defense is still pretty frightful, though i must say the entire back line looked confused out there all night long. even nance-who's normally pretty good with this stuff--got lost for a couple dunks. we're 50+ games into the season, and the team still doesn't understand its own defensive schemes. i'm not one to blame byron for everything, but he has to take a big part of that blame.
Yeah, sorry you missed the good ones abeer3. This one was a stinker all around, and Julius was as bad as everyone else. Only guy to rise above it somewhat was Jordan who had a pretty nice game.
I recorded the game last night. I came home and watched it. There is absolutely no semblance or purpose of what they're trying to do out there. Absolutely none; if this deadline incentivizes us to trade any of our young pieces without the opportunity to see what they would do in a modern system, I'm not going to be happy. Additionally, in that scenario, you better bring back a star.
@abeer3 at some point you're just TRYING to find his bad games. I mean c'mon man the kid had 7 double-doubles in 10 games and just came off a 20 point and 10 rebound performance. Up until last night he'd put together a great stretch. Last night he was terrible. He was disjointed from the start and was clearly rattled by what must be the longest team in NBA history. Every one of that starting five looks like they're 6'11" with a 9'7" reach. Not good for a team with zero spacing, shaky shooters, and force feeding an old guy in the post. It's a bad match-up. Couple that with him not touching the ball for minutes at a time to start the game and his attitude plummeted. He really has to do a better job of rolling with the punches. If he doesn't touch the ball for a few minutes, he pouts. It's one of my least favorite tendencies young players develop.
It's games like this one, along with teams like Utah and others that make me believe that if we get the #1 pick and keep Simmons, Randle has to be traded. Randle can be severely negated against some teams. Throw Simmons in as our sf, we'd have zero chance against long athletic teams who can crowd the paint and make it a buzz saw inside with their length. That's not supposed to be a huge knock on Randle, but games like last night show me how difficult a Simmons/Randle forward tandem would struggle.
I completely disagree. Randle holds himself back. Just because there's some match-ups that are tough for him, doesn't mean we need to trade him. It means he needs to work on them and it means we don't have a very good team. If we could space the floor for Julius properly there's no PF in the league that could stop him on a consistent basis.
Games like last night are the perfect examples of why Julius should study Blake Griffin's game and begin to model his tendencies. They are very similar in that they both are hard nosed PFs that are lacking in length. Blake was able to take the next step in his career by developing a consistent jumper, working on his inside footwork, and relying less on his athleticism. If Julius can understand the importance of growing and modeling his game after Griffin, he'll be a nightmare for opposing Forwards and Equipment Managers to handle.
That's the whole thing though. Simmons is not going to space the floor. With Ingram at pick #2, Randle will be fine. Simmons and Randle play 12 feet in. Simmons probably isn't going to develop a long range jumper in the next few months. As much as Kobe can't space the floor for Randle, Simmons would actually be worse. Like I said, it's not a knock on Randle so much as him and specifically Simmons would be a bad pairing.
I'd rather figure it out between them. Two guys that size able to rebound and push the floor? We'd be awesome in transition. Simmons is already a decent help defender too which would make up for Julius's lack of rim protection. Give me the talent first and I'll deal with the problems later. Right now we have no talent AND no spacing. It's a mess. I also don't want to get into the trend of trading away our guys because of another young guy. Julius today is an elite rebounder. We don't even know if Simmons is going to be an elite NBA player. The chances are good, but he could flop just as hard as any other flop has ever flopped. I'm not giving up Julius, who I know has a future in the NBA, for another project. Give me both of them and I'll figure out a way to be successful.
After one bad game the Randle haters are back in full force. Typical. It's comical to me how people always overreact to a bad game by a young player. Young players like Randle are gonna have ups and downs. It's part of their learning curve.
I don't think anyone's really hating Lakers2015. I'm one of the biggest Randle supporters here and even I admit he had a bad game. Abeer3 is funny though in that he seems to miss every good Randle game and only catch the bad. But I do agree with you - patience is the key. Julius has been absolutely killing it since he's been back in the starting lineup. He's averaging like 12 and 12. He's been awesome. It's fair to note that he does struggle at times against length. RE: Savory Griddles post, I do agree that Randle and Ingram is a much better fit than Randle and Simmons. But . . . it's not that bad of a problem to have, really! If we get the number one pick, we'll figure it all out!
