Julius Randle Discussion: MIP

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  1. sirronstuff

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    He disrespected the game, so it's disrespecting him back.

    ---:Scott:
     
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    Ok Huertas is a genius and Randle is an imbecile then. Cool guys. You give him the freaking rock when he has the mismatch and let him back down the 6 footer. Instead Huertas held on it until the shot clock basically expired.
     
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    Yeah I didn't understand that either. Sure Randle could've gotten better position, but we've seen him drive the ball from that spot on the court many times before. Either way jacking up that ill advised three was just a terrible shot. Huertas is just awful.
     
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    So we're judging guys off how many baskets they score now? He only took four shots and played only 16 minutes which is absurd and yet he still managed 12 rebounds so the energy is definitely there and that's good to see.
     
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    Driving on a quicker, smaller player is asking for an offensive foul.
     
  6. lakerjones

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    It's a better percentage look than jacking up a three with no more time on the clock. It's called taking advantage of a mismatch.
     
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    I actually agree. I'm not sure it's entirely his fault. He seems to be being used horribly and Byron is putting him in horrible positions to succeed. Not saying it's all on Scott. A lot of it is on Julius. But he isn't being put in a position to succeed whatsoever.
     
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    Ok I'll give props for the rebounds but seriously Phoenix is horrendous. At SAC last night they gave up 140pts in regulation and got a grand total of 3 stops in the last 8 minutes of the game allowing 36 points. We saw in the first half how much they suck and he scores 2pts vs them.

    Like I said he'll probably bounce back next game. He's not a bad player he had a really bad game however. Just unacceptable to have that kind of game vs such a horrible team
     
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    Man you can't be calling 20 year old kids out in front of people like that dumba**.
     
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    Great people skills Byron.
     
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    I officially hate Boron. This guy is a cancer for our young guys. It's making me sick. He talks of pulling Clarkson out of the starting lineup. He penalizes Russell and Randle whether they play well or not. F this guy. Tired of his nonsense. The dude starts Anthony Brown but benches Russell and Randle.
     
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    Randle has a point guard on him, sealed off completely and Huertas stares at him for 10 seconds. Give him the ball and get out of the way. What a stupid battle of wills that was. Should Randle have gotten better position? Yes.

    But how? Huertas wasn't moving either and I believe Russell was also standing at the top of the arch which left no room at all for Randle to operate. Then instead he chucks up a three pointer instead?

    That wasn't Randle's best play, but it was far from his fault. I'm not even disagreeing that he shows a lot of issues with help defense/ball stopping, but still to blame Randle for that is straight up silly.

    Then he takes only what 4 shots? His rotation in the 2nd half made no sense whatsoever. I'm shocked he hasn't boiled over already. He's got a lot of Kobe in him. I don't believe for a second that he has a low basketball IQ. I think he's a smart player, but like Kobe that doesn't mean he does all the things he needs to do. It just means he knows where he can point his finger when he makes a mistake. He's a terrible help defender and I honestly don't know why. That's partly on coaching too though. It's up to Byron to tell him (not f***ing publicly) what he needs to do to improve and how to do it. I don't believe Byron has done that at all.
     
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    Truth! Randle has had 1 year of collegiate experience and is a rookie. He developed a post game with Calipari at UK. He handled Calipari's instruction and during the tournament when WCS was out with injury, Randle played excellent defense on the way to the Champion that tournament.

    So, when he does receive instruction, he responds. The problem is Byron talks a good game, but I haven't seen one instance where he's teaching and developing these kids. You want to call out his defense? Fine. However, the buck should stop with you running an antiquated defensive scheme that ra KS dead last in defensive efficiency. Who's holding your a** accountable?

    This is a joke. Julius knows he's a joke. He frustrated, not from this one particular incident, but from having to deal with an imbecile of a head coach.
     
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    I'm sorry, but Huertas had a much clearer sight of the court as Randle had his back turned. He saw the middle was wide open. Now, Huertas definitely made a mistake not moving further to the corner to give Randle room to operate, but Randle should have trusted his teammate. I think that's the main reason he's been benched, he has absolutely no trust in his teammates.
     
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    Randle should've trusted his teammate that's been a complete liability on both ends this season? Umm okay and considering the terrible shot he took I can't say I blame Randle for not trusting that scrub. Yeah I get Randle has things he needs to work on same with D'Angelo and Jordan, but considering the flagrant lack of a system and the poor spacing I don't see how anyone could be surprised with what we're seeing from the kid and let's not forget he missed all his rookie season. That's an entire season of lost experience.
     
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    Randle has no reason to trust Huertas. Huertas wasn't running a great offense to that point in the game. As soon as he got in the offense looked terrible actually as Randle and Russell struggled to figure out their role. Huertas is a fringe NBA player and he's an awful fit with Russell/Randle who have shown great chemistry. In fact the only time I see Randle setting real screens is for Kobe and now Russell.

    Randle was in a spot he's comfortable. Give him the ball and get out of the way. It was a bad play by Randle, Huertas, and whoever was at the top of the arch (Russell?), but it was not Randle's fault alone and given what Huertas did instead of giving the ball to Julius, I'm not sure he's in any position to defend his actions.
     
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    Oh no it definitely wasn't his fault alone. Everyone in that second unit was hot garbage. But we've both seen this, the spots Randle is comfortable in aren't exactly the spots he's most successful in, and he doesn't seem the understand that. I guess my problem with that was that it seemed like a power play by Randle, kind of like what Kobe does when he calls for the ball and isos, but more serious. He wanted Huertas to give him the ball no matter what Huertas thought, and I don't like that.
     
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    The dude developed an attitude problem overnight after being treated like crap by the coach. Who would've thunk this will happen? Everybody with a brain.
     
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    Attitude problem? I woulda punch Byron so hard, Magic's teeth would fall out, as he is firmly inserted into his butt.
     
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    When has a head coach ever been called a cancer to the team? Can't recall I've ever read that anywhere, though it's becoming clear as hell that Byron pig-headed Scott for all intents and purposes is now that. Where the hell are Mitch and Jim to reign in this SOB's misguided drill sergeant's ego and stop the damage???
     

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