Byron Scott Discussion 2015-16 - FIRED!!! (PAGE 172)

Sure ok, Byron was tasked with balancing a season of development vs. treating Kobe's farewell with dignity and respect. I wouldn't call that no-win. It may be more difficult than people realize obviously, but I feel like it's not as difficult as they're making it seem.

Kobe:
Kobe seems pretty mellow and zen about the whole retirement thing. In his current state, he doesn't strike me as being the guy who will suddenly death stare you or demand a trade (lol) for cutting down his minutes or reducing his role in favor of efficiency, team harmony, and young player development. He seems very go with the flow. What is lacking is a strong voice from above (i.e. the head coach BYRON) directing these things. So what we see most of the time is just Kobe trying to do what he's always done. After all, it makes sense to fall back on old habits that have worked in the past. But Kobe's older, battered by age and injury, so that doesn't really fly most of the time. But obviously he's still a wealth of basketball knowledge and we saw that put into practice last night (and through other previous anecdotes from Dlo about Coach Kobe). Seemed to me that Kobe enjoys that a lot, maybe as much as being on the court in his final season? He seemed pretty damn happy. As head coach, I would encourage that. Hype him up about that. Get him to embrace that. Don't do what Byron has been doing and trying to convince Kobe he's the same Kobe he's always been. In a way I feel like he's stunting Kobe's growth as a person and player (yes, even in his 20th season!).

Development:
As for development, it's pretty obvious that Byron is not going to bestow any useful knowledge in the areas of, oh I dunno...basketball. What he can do is give the young guys playing time and plenty of it. But he can't even do that simple task.

So I don't see how it's no-win honestly. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

 

Byron is an atrocity and if the FO is really feeling bad for him and making excuses then they're a bigger atrocity. Everyone else sees it it's like their the only one who doesn't. The man has a proven track record of wearing out his welcome. There's a reason for that. He can't coach in this league. You can talk about the rotations, the unwillingness to dial Kobe back, the lack of a defensive scheme, trying to force the Princeton on this young group of players, you can go down the line. He has got to go. No other coach benches their top three players in what is clearly a rebuilding year and has excuses made for them.

 

Yeah a head coach hunt in the middle of the season is a major shake up to Jim's schedule (having to watch all those dvds again) but seriously, they can develop the youngsters and still tank if that's their plan. Best thing would be to give them tons of minutes. As good as DAR and JR played yesterday we still couldn't beat a less than mediocre team. Scott will still screw things up.

The losing will scar a little but I don't believe it's permanent, that stuff will leave with Boron. I don't believe for a second these kids won't bounce back. They've won in college, they will train next summer, whether that means Julius learns to go right and/or DAR builds his body or Clarkson works on defense or whatever they will come back better and hungry after a season like this. Add a coach like Scott Brooks that knows how to quickly build young talent and motivate them and put some real FA talent in here and within a year or two we will become a destination again for a super star.

 

Absolutely. Losing while feeling like you played a good game and did things you can build on (i.e., last night) is way different from losing because you collectively sucked a fat egg or barely played (i.e., almost all the other nights).

 

I don't agree. We don't need another pick. The chances of getting Simmons are not great anyway. I'd rather have Byron fired now and make Madsen or Pressy the interim coach. Play our young guys major minutes. Put players at their natural position. Simplify the offense.

We need to nip this losing mentality in the bud. As long as Byron is around, this mentality will continue.

We need these young guys to gain confidence and hopefully start playing better towards the end of the season, with something to look forward to next season. We aren't making the playoffs, but if our young core plays well towards the end of the season, free agents will take notice.

 

Even his stupid blurry arms are folded....

 

^Even in the 2K games he still folds his arms???

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ws-rumors-speculation-on-lakers-coachs-future

I might read too much into it but this is getting my hopes up ... I mean what is he going to say? "they got to man up from the bench and keep watching film on the iPad in Crunchtime"?

 

If they decide to stay after Byron is fired, yes they will.

In terms of starting a winning culture? Yes.

True. Their coaching choices have been poor since Phil retired.

We gave Byron a 4 year/17 million dollar deal. He's currently the 11th highest paid coach in the league. I don't think coaches will be scared. Especially if 19 other teams are paying them less.

The real question is whether they want to coach kids or not. This is a young rebuilding team.

If Byron isn't fired after this road trip or some of his autonomy is taken away, I can only conclude that the tank is on.