Julius Randle Discussion: MIP

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  1. gcclaker

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    Worthyesque...
     
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    Yeah I was just joshing with you guys. Last night was a larger moment for Russell for sure because he hasn't been out there as much, but I think it's crazy how we've already come to expect greatness out of Julius in what is essentially his rookie season. He's an elite rebounder that is developing truly awesome things offensively and is growing defensively game-to-game.

    I'm with you @lakerjones . He's not Shaq or LeBron, but it's the mismatch he represents because of his physical profile. Barkley I suppose is also a good example of someone who was so unique physically that they were able to accomplish things beyond what you'd expect from people their size. It's something else to watch man I tell you. I'm not sure people really understand that we've seen him go into traffic with four defenders around him, throw up a shot, get his own board in traffic and finish because he's so strong and so aggressive that guys just melt out of his way. Incredible!
     
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    ^^ Agreed, GCC - you can really see the Big Game tutelage from this summer coming through in that first quick step move. The fact that it was around a young quick wing like Wiggins really puts this in perspective. Again, that combination of size, strength and quickness is what makes Julius so difficult to defend. His personality and intelligence also make him really compelling to watch. He's got IT.
     
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    I think we are getting spoiled by his nightly double double. He's out playing a lot of his peers and he still has a ton to grow. Imagine him with a jumper, with that off hand, dude is going to be a mismatch nightmare. Don't forget about the spin move we saw yesterday, was it against KAT?

    Still hard to believe he fell to us at 7. Heat outplaying everyone that went before him, even Wiggins at times.
     
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    Meh you don't know s*** about Julius. You're part of this cult-like following on LB for Randle when he's just not that good and he has the leg issues already in the past. Huge red flag! (Keep drinking the cool aid).



    I don't know s*** about him either. Nor any of the rest of us in this "cult like" following here on LB and I would imagine LG and the ghost of CL.

    Swear to god these were words typed to me in a PM by freaking Bonk after I took exception with one of his posts and his "take" of mediocrity for Randle's future because of all his handicaps.

    First I got a PM that said now he remembered why he quit (as Bonk) CL the first time. No one (him in this case) could have a dissenting point of view, and he was now leaving again. I still felt bad for him because he was dead Rooscooter's cousin or whatever. But I said, crap you're like the cop who pulls me over from the fast lane for doing 70 in a 65mph zone when EVERYONE is doing 70. Then, trying to be nice guy, I said, though, I admired how he stuck to his view. It reminded me of Rooscooter..... they had a similar style of posting and he's probably proud looking down. I actually said that. He came back pissed at me (others called his s*** on the style thing too, why he is NO LONGER here) and said to me, "what do you mean "style of posting"? "What's a style of posting?"

    We should have a POLL. Who is the bigger A-hole for doing what they're doing / DID ..... Byron Scott or Rooscooter. Tough call.
     
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    I think B0ron is just a bad coach, he does stupid things because it seems like he genuinely thinks they'll work. Roos seemed smart, and he used that intelligence to never accept any other position than he was right, always. He used that intelligence to be an a-hole to everyone who disagrees with him even a tiny bit, so there's your answer.

    And it's "Kool-Aid", it's too awesome to bother with correct spelling, like how adding a "Z" to words makes them cooler or more extreme. It's 2 kool 4 skool.
     
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    I thought he was banned
     
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    You thought right. Geez Weezy .... I'm running on my dark side with the hate for what Byron's doing and Rooscooter did..... and you hit me with a typo on Kool Aid?

    :Crazyartest:
     
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    LMAO that smiley is perfect. I had to point that out, not because you spelled it wrong, but because I've always wanted to point out and make fun of the spelling of Kool-Aid.
     
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    I've been saying it since early on, he's Larry Johnson 2.0.
     
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    I can't get over how he just bounces guys into the opposite directions from the angle he hits them from. At 20 years old. And he has these short arms and can't use his right yet, nor consistently (glimmers here and there) hit those short money Js yet. He's 20 folks. I'm back to my, Byron a-hole Scott notwithstanding, ....... Peoples' ROTY candidate. It would be back in my sig but there's more pressing needs with Boron.

    Hey raptors had short arms too and always wind up being main players in the Jurassic Park movies. The smart, alpha dogs you don't eff with. Shaq would be a T-Rex. Everyone less than Shaq since him .... personal preference for description.
     
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    Is that the spin around Wiggins? I went nuts when he did that. Those two have been playing against each other since HS right? Right now the TWOLVES are my favorite match up just because of the lottery pic order. That alone gives us the edge in terms of something to prove. Wiggins 1 and Randle 7 but really a top 3, Towns 1 and Russ 2, and Lavine going ahead of Clarkson. I'd say Clarkson > Levine but so much potential there with both and the other guys are so close in talent/potential. These teams will be fun to watch for a long time.
     
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    Yeah that spin move was awesome. That and his Dream Shake ..... he's just beginning to match his quickness with his coordination and skills ..... to be combined with his bull in a china shop strength. Beast. Now more than ever. The way he just keeps moving guys and getting his own missed shots and putting them in the basket himself!
     
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    Dang another squished video file from this format. This is a great and awesome move too, showing that kind of foot speed and picking up the skills of his mentors like Kobe and Worthy and World Peace.
     
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    There was only one guy Julius couldn't bounce so far...was it Drummond? I just remember Julius going at one dude and ending up on the floor while the other guy didn't budge an inch. I was like damn...that guy MUST be strong.
     
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    It's a solid comparison, but I think he can be better. We haven't seen much of his passing lately and that's the next step in his game. We know he CAN make those passes, but it'll take time for him to get comfortable making them.
     
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    ...and only in his first real full season. Much to learn and much to do.
     
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    favors.

    towns bounced off him last night, which was pretty badass, as towns was active and physical all night.

    even if randle never gets a j (color me doubtful, hate his form), if he can just finish with the off hand right next to the hoop, he'll be a handful for a decade. so strong, so quick, great balance (underrated athletic quality, btw), good motor (at least on offense and individual defense).

    and no, I don't get why exum, smart, injured embiid, and Gordon went ahead of him. I might have taken him over parker, too, though perhaps that's hindsight bias. I do remember seeing him play in the mcdonald's game and being like...that's the #1 pick, right? same feeling when I was watching a wiggins highlight video and he kept getting his lunch eaten by some other dude (randle).

    anyway, the lakers got a player. whether he's allstar caliber will be determined by the jumper and off hand (as is WELL established around here). still, he's outperforming his draft slot already.
     
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    Randle also had a hard time moving Kenneth Faried early in the season which was strange to me.

    I definitely don't understand how Gordon went ahead of Randle. At the time of the draft Exum was a REALLY sexy pick. One of the guys (Frascilla?) compared Exum to a young Michael Jordan physically! He had the foreign thing going and all that. Yeah I remember Exum being one of those guys at the moment. Embiid had all the upside you could hope for. I maintain he was one of my favorite college kids to watch play. I remember reading he was our #1 pick if he somehow fell to our spot. Smart was a toss up. He was supposed to give you NBA ready lock-down defense at the PG spot which everyone had previous assumed was impossible so I can see why somebody would be intrigued there. Heck when we had it going down to our 7th pick and we were picking between Smart and Randle for a second I wanted Smart in the moment.

    Gordon though? I never got that one. At best he's what? Shawn Marion? That's if he starts breaking out a three point shot which he hasn't done consistently. I like Gordon, but I thought that was a REALLY ambitious and strange pick for the Magic. It seemed like the picked for "fit" rather than "talent".

    This was all orchestrated I believe by Randle's agent though. Randle wanted to be here and once we got him in workouts, I think the Lakers wanted him too. We let the rumors of his injury spread and grow and then we took at him 7 almost immediately. Remember that pick? We had like a minute left which is something that rarely happens.
     

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