NBA Random News/Notes Thread 2015-2016

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  1. RasAlgethi

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    WTF, looked like he used that kid as a ramp to get even higher.
     
  2. Weezy

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    That's not an offensive foul to me. If you can't get up to challenge the shot, and the guy can leap like that and maybe get injured if you take a "charge", don't get in the way. If you want to jump to challenge the dunk, ok, but don't jump right under the hoop, I hate that crap. You'd never see that happen at a park, so you shouldn't see it in a game with serious athletes that can get hurt from you standing like that. Not a popular opinion I know, but I'm sticking to it. Charges in college ball are awful too, horrible calls half the time.
     
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    ^I'm with Weezy, I really hate when people just slide over to take a charge. That's not defense. Play defense, challenge the dunk or don't. But don't just slide over and fall down. All you're doing is undercutting the guy.
     
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    he was just testing his chin lol
     
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    to echo the above posts: if the nba would stop incentivizing defenders acting like pylons, the game would be so much better. not only more shot challenges/blocked shots, but maybe even fewer james harden calls that happen because of a basic misunderstanding of the both the written rules and the spirit of the rules of basketball.

    if I hear one more announcer say "but see, he's still moving, so that's a block!" I'm going to lose it.
     
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    Wow! Okafor 26 points and 7 rebounds tonight in loss to C Bags. Figger it out quick, D'Angelo!!
     
  7. RasAlgethi

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    ^PG take longer to succeed in the NBA in general. I'd recommend not reading into these type of Okafor comparisons until later in their careers.
     
  8. therealdeal

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    Really? I thought it was generally accepted that bigs take longer to develop because they need time to fill out and get up to NBA speed while guards are generally more ready to go and have the ball in their hands more.

    I'm not going to compare the two of them yet, but Okafor and Mudiay will be ROY candidates. I don't think Russell will be in their league this year. The next few years will be a different story, but those two came into the NBA ready to contribute today which is why I was so high on them.
     
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    ^ we don't need to be good now though ;)
    Russel has a higher ceiling... higher bust potential too ;).
     
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    Disagree. Guards have their fate in their own hands because they dominate the ball and control what happens. There is an understood theory in the league that bigs take 3 years. Bigs have to wait to get spoon fed from a guard.

    Now maybe if you're talking about learning a complex offense, it might be different. Coach Scott isn't smart enough X&Os wise to create a complex offense
     
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    I agree. I was an Okafor guy and this is precisely why. He's ready to go today and give you this output more often than not. A little room to grow, but he had the highest floor of any player in recent memory.

    Russell is a heck of a lot of potential, but it's going to be slow rolling for a little while.
     
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    Is it me, or is the media blowing Justise Winslow's baseline dunk wayyyy out of proportion? Saying that he's going to be amazing or whatever, despite having a mediocre game and that only highlight.

    Nance's dunk makes his look easy.
     
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    Clippers unveil black uniforms that are somehow worse than their normal horrible ones
    By iamhectordiaz@iamHectorDiaz on Nov 6, 2015, 7:12p 1



    The Los Angeles Clippers have made a series of questionable decisions with their#brand. Their logo was generally reviled by NBA fans. And their uniforms weren't an exception.

    Luckily, they will only wear these uniforms six times, in honor of their 'Celebrate Downtown LA' games.

    But despite all of that all of the changes pale in comparison to the team's new black alternate uniforms. We wouldn't be surprised if the opposing team stops playing in the middle of the game, point, and say, "what are those!"

    Chris Paul probably isn't happy about them.



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    http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015...-uniforms-celebrate-downtown-la-with-bad-unis
     
  15. Weezy

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    Eh, not a fan, but I may be biased. They kinda look like the black Sixers jerseys, which I actually do like.
     
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    Nice read on the amazing Mr. Curry and what Nash thinks of his game.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...led-a-player-as-we-ve-ever-had-025757645.html

    Ball Don't Lie
    Steve Nash on Stephen Curry: 'Maybe as skilled a player as we’ve ever had'

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    By Kelly Dwyer16 hours ago Ball Don't Lie


    “Skill” is a tricky concept, because we will forever be arguing about the delineation point between what was gifted from above, and what was worked out during dribbling drills in the garage when it was too cold to go shoot outside.


    What we can’t argue over is Stephen Curry’s gem of a season, and career, thus far.

    The Golden State Warriors guard and defending MVP has led his team to an undefeated record through 13 games. He’s leading the league in scoring, Win Shares, and True Shooting Percentage while making a wild 5.2 three-pointers per game. If this production holds up, the NBA will have never seen a season like this.

    Steve Nash, who entered the NBA 19 years ago, saw quite a bit over his (eventual) Hall of Fame run. The newly ensconced GSW “player development consultant” appears to be as gobsmacked with Curry’s initial turn as any of us, and he discussed as much with the San Jose Mercury News’ Tim Kawakami recently:

    “I wouldn’t compare him to Michael Jordan–I wouldn’t compare anybody to Michael,” Nash told me by phone a little while ago. “But I would say Steph is turning into a historical category of his own, in a way.”

    He’s in the prime of his career and will be for a few years and the way he’s improving and the level he’s playing at is… I think he’s unlike anyone else. His ability to make shots and still handle the play-making duties is historic.”

    […]

    “The skill level is already prodigious and it keeps getting better. And since the experience and understanding will continue to grow, it’s pretty remarkable to think about the heights he can get to.”

    […]

    “He’s maybe as skilled a player as we’ve ever had in this game.”

    It’s here that you get into that tricky area that attempts to differentiate between skill and single-mindedness. Between the luck that comes from coming into this world as the eventual 6-3 son of one of the NBA’s greatest shooters in Dell Curry, and spending your childhood as the kid that needed to be chased away from daddy’s court for shooting for too long, and from too far away.

    [was seen doing as much at age 27 – entering his third decade of ridiculous practice habits.

    What Curry has is the pleasure of not only working alongside Steve Nash in Golden State, but the luxury of being around to watch Nash’s pro ascension.

    Dating back to Nash’s initial run with Phoenix, the biggest knock separating him from the status of “pretty good prospect” and “MVP candidate” was his refusal to take advantage of his superior scoring skills. It’s true that Nash’s footwork and economy of movement wasn’t as superb at age 25 as it was during his MVP years, but as late as Nash’s penultimate year with Don Nelson’s Dallas Mavericks he had Nellie half-threatening to fine him if he didn’t pull up for more of those spot on jumpers.

    Curry, at 11.5 three-pointers a game this season, has no such hesitation; partially due to Nash’s influence. Nash’s two top shots per-minute years came in Dallas, but his top three-pointers per-minute seasons came with Phoenix, as both he and the league loosened up to the fact that these sorts of 25-footers shouldn’t just be for the specialists.

    As a result of this evolution, look at where we are. A 6-3 waterbug has a 35 Player Efficiency Rating, which would rank as the best in league history if sustained until April (which could never happen … right?). Curry averages 34 points per game in 36 minutes a contest, with 5.3 rebounds and 2.5 steals. His assists are down to 5.8 a game, but his assist rate is just fine and his turnover rate is lower than anything Dr. Nash ever turned in during a regular season.

    There has never been anything like this, and it’s understandable for Steve Nash to immediately jump to Jordan – prior to dismissing talk of anything GOAT-related – while scratching his head over Nash’s hot start.

    (And this is A-OK! On Wednesday I had a conversation with my basketball nut of a father as we waded through that night’s League Pass offerings, with both of us passing out names of players that Curry reminded us of. Sometimes, with Hall of Famers, you tend to mention the influence of mere All-Stars when discussing their creation. Marques Johnson before Michael Jordan, for instance, or Mychal Thompson before Tim Duncan.

    Not with Curry. Jordan was brought up. Isiah. Nash. Bird and Magic, for Stephen’s moxie and willingness to take chances. Pistol Pete. It was all legends with this guy. And the one thing we did determine, over two generations worth of obsessing over this sport, was that this was the greatest shooter we’ve ever seen.)

    Things will settle down. The Warriors will catch two Texas teams on a back to back on the road and then a hungry lottery-bound club and drop three in a row at some point. Someone will sprain an ankle, or land funny, and the grind of playing 100-plus games over two years will get to the Warriors. Perhaps they might finish the season 73-9, topping Chicago’s 20-year old NBA record for wins in a season, but no team can stay this golden for this long.

    There’s no reason to believe that Curry will let up, however. The man, at 45 percent from deep, is basically shooting a tick above his career average. His coach, Steve Kerr, retired in 2003 and was regarded at the time as the greatest three-point shooter in league history due to that same average – but Curry has already nearly doubled up Kerr’s career attempts from long range in nine fewer seasons.

    Coming out of Davidson as a small school star, there was never any fear regarding whether or not Stephen Curry would be able to make shots at the NBA level. As with Steve Nash and his father Dell Curry, the fear surrounded him actually being able to get the shots off. Would he have a life as a specialist, like his father? No shame in that. Would he be eaten alive by the game’s speed, a la a 6-3 version of Adam Morrison? At age 21, how much more would he be able to add to his game?

    Plenty, it turns out. Steve Nash was never one for hyperbole, and even in his first month as an NBA scout of sorts he seems spot on with his assessment.

     
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    What a d******, he fits right in in Philly. Can you imagine him in LA? Clubs, media, night life. Disaster waiting to happen.
     
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    To play devil's advocate, I'd say nearly 65% of the underage NBA kids go out to places they shouldn't be and get involved in things they shouldn't be involved in -- booze, drugs, women (I'm probably being generous with that percentage). I don't think the NBA has anywhere near a sufficient program in place to prepare these kids for adulthood in terms of money or life experiences. When a lot of these kids go out, especially on the road, they're an easy target for a drunken payday. That's not justifying the behavior, rather just the way the world works.

    If I was in Philly, I'd be drinking and going out on the road too. The organization clearly gives zero s***s about winning. Jah won a game more recently on college than the 6ers have won one. If you're not used to that culture...it's not an easy pill to swallow.
     
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