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Roy Hibbert Discussion 2015-16: No Buyout

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Man that's a sigh of relief. We need our big man in the middle, I don't want to see Sacre playing anymore.

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I did see the moment he kind hurt it. Looked impact to me, but it was pretty quick, IIRC.

Anyway - there is no reason for him to play. Bob + Black. No Sacre.

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Watch Sacre start.

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Hibbert is someone we can't afford to lose, he helps set the tone.

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JLaker17 said: ↑

Hibbert is someone we can't afford to lose, he helps set the tone.
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I think its fair to say he's the most important Laker because of what he does which is clog up the paint, if we want any chance of having a good year and a chance to make the playoffs we need Roy healthy and injury free.

No question.

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He should stop falling on the hard floor so damn often .... that would be a good plan for starters.

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Him falling is his way to prevent injuries I would think from absorbing impact. This injury was knee to knee, correct me if I'm wrong.

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LTLakerFan said: ↑

He should stop falling on the hard floor so damn often .... that would be a good plan for starters.
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This made me laugh the way it was phrased. LOL!!

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KareemtheGreat33 said: ↑

Him falling is his way to prevent injuries I would think from absorbing impact. This injury was knee to knee, correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think you're right. He falls basically on purpose to avoid opposing forces on his long limbs. It's smart, but it means he's on the ground a lot.

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"He falls basically on purpose to avoid opposing forces on his long limbs"

Especially after loosing the weight I've wondered about his back pocket leverage against the big guys that have that kind of mass and are bumping him backwards. My main concern with him, as everywhere else he is looking good so far.

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LTLakerFan said: ↑

"He falls basically on purpose to avoid opposing forces on his long limbs"

Especially after loosing the weight I've wondered about his back pocket leverage against the big guys that have that kind of mass and are bumping him backwards. My main concern with him, as everywhere else he is looking good so far.
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Eh I'm not that concerned about it. His length is impressive and he's got solid core strength. He'll be able to change shots even against the few bruisers left out there like Al Jefferson and Marc Gasol.

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Eh I'm not that concerned about it. His length is impressive and he's got solid core strength. He'll be able to change shots even against the few bruisers left out there like Al Jefferson and Marc Gasol.
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Thank you. I defer to your opinion here of course. It's great to hear you feel his core is strong. Loving what I'm seeing and reading and listening to Roy say to us all for this year's team.

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:headscratch:I've never heard of Al Jefferson referred to as a bruiser.

Always heard skilled offense, but no defense. Just never bruiser? Maybe I haven't seen him enough.

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:headscratch:I've never heard of Al Jefferson referred to as a bruiser.

Always heard skilled offense, but no defense. Just never bruiser? Maybe I haven't seen him enough.
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Well he's a big, heavy dude. That's really all I meant.

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You guys better get used to him being on the floor because while in IND thats one thing I always heard from fans and even watching him off and on. I remember that series with the Heat in the playoffs where he played really well and he was always on the ground a few times a game.

Scary for us fans to watch, no doubt..

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I'm very happy with Roy this pre-season. He is a very good all-round center, no question.

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http://ocregister.com/articles/hibbert-688291-lakers-team.html

Roy Hibbert at center of efforts to improve Lakers' chemistry

Oct. 19, 2015

Updated 11:04 p.m.

By BILL ORAM »
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It was not unlike the fast breaks they had practiced. Jordan Clarkson filled the lane to one side and Jabari Brown sprinted along the other edge.

In the middle of the chaos operated the rookie, D’Angelo Russell.

They closed in on the goal, but there would be no layup or corner 3-pointer. The target hid behind a short concrete barrier. Clarkson and Brown approached Lakers video coordinator J.J. Outlaw from the sides, and Russell stunned Outlaw by leaping over the barrier. Orange starbursts spattered on Outlaw’s clothing.

“Stop shooting! Stop shooting!” Clarkson said Outlaw yelled, laughing at the memory.

The Lakers spent that day, about a week before training camp, on a paintball course near Long Beach. The field trip helps explain the early chemistry of this Lakers team.

“These guys get along extremely well,” Coach Byron Scott said. “They like each other, they push each other, and it doesn’t happen that often when you have this many new people, this early.”

Eleven of the 19 players the Lakers brought to training camp were not on the team last season. The player who is getting much of the credit for the fast-assembled group’s immediate cohesion might come as a bit of a surprise.

He’s a newcomer, too.

Roy Hibbert has quietly, quickly become a locker room leader. He shares stories of his own struggles when teammates are frustrated. He takes rookies to lunch. When the Lakers all received a group text inviting them to spend a day firing capsules of paint at each other, it came from Hibbert.

“It’s a small thing,” Clarkson said, “but at the end of the day, it made us closer.”

• • •

The Indiana Pacers jettisoned Hibbert across the country after his seventh, and least productive, season with the franchise. Hibbert was in Los Angeles when his agent, David Falk, called to tell him the news. Coincidentally, he and his wife had moved to L.A. for the summer.

Drafted and dumped by the same team. In the years between, he was a Defensive Player of the Year candidate and an All-Star. Twice.

But the Pacers had plans for a faster, slicker style of play, and Hibbert’s lumbering, half-court ways didn’t fit.

The Lakers, who were worse defensively than all but one team last season, saw an opportunity to shore up their glaring hole in the middle.

“We knew that we were getting a guy who was a hell of a defender,” Scott said, “a very good shot-blocker.”

Through six preseason games, he’s been that for the Lakers, who will have an opportunity to re-sign Hibbert in the summer and make him a piece of their future.

They didn’t know they were landing a team leader.

Scott has credited all of the team’s veterans, including Kobe Bryant, Lou Williams and Metta World Peace, for mentoring the young core. But he gives Hibbert “big-time credit.”

“He’s a veteran,” Scott said. “He’s been in this league and he knows that’s an important element to being successful.”

Hibbert shrugs off the notion he’s done anything unique. He didn’t even look up from his cell phone when he was asked about organizing the paintball outing.

“Not a big deal,” he said, citing similar team activities when he was with the Pacers.

Clarkson disagreed.

“We didn’t have really guys last year that were going to do that,” he said, “take us out and just do things like team bonding events. But Roy’s actually done that and done that on a couple of occasions now.”

Chemistry is just one ingredient of success. If the Lakers’ defense doesn’t improve, or they don’t win more than the last two seasons, no one will care about a paintball outing in September.

On Tuesday, Scott was posed the question of whether a team short on talent – and yes, the rebuilding Lakers qualify – benefits more from good chemistry.

Scott smirked.

“I’d rather have the talent,” he said. “I’ve had some really good teams that had great chemistry and then I’ve had some bad teams that had pretty good chemistry, as well. So I think it still comes down to the talent.”

Talent needs nurturing, however. On the night of the Lakers’ second preseason loss in Honolulu, Hibbert was involved in a scuffle with Jazz forward Trevor Booker. After the game, rookie Larry Nance Jr. sat at his locker, lamenting the lackluster performance in his NBA debut. He went scoreless in 11 minutes.

Hibbert calmly offered encouragement to Nance, saying he envied his natural talent and telling him not all players hit the ground running.

“He always talks about paying it forward,” Nance said. “He said he had really good vets that took care of him and showed him the ropes, and he’s trying to do that for us.”

Hibbert recounted to Nance the story of one of his first preseason games, when he was ejected in the fourth quarter for throwing an elbow.

At least, Hibbert told Nance, he didn’t get thrown out.

“There’s always a positive to everything,” Nance said.

• • •

Hibbert abhors discussing his departure from Indiana, complaining to a reporter, “How many times do I got to talk about this stuff?”

He averaged 10.6 points, 7.1 rebounds and 1.6 blocks last season, but his role became significantly reduced. The final blow came when the Pacers used their lottery pick on center Myles Turner.

When asked about those circumstances, fragments of familiar talking points are recited: “Different situation. Love it. Things weren’t working out, so decided to move on.”

The Lakers acquired Hibbert for a second-round pick. They will pay him $15.5 million this season, then evaluate whether he is worth a long-term investment.

This is perhaps the most important season of Hibbert’s career. So why is he seemingly so focused on everyone else?

He considered that question as he walked out the tunnel of Staples Center with Nance and rookie Michael Frazier. They were on their way to lunch following a morning shootaround.

“When the team wins,” Hibbert said, “everybody wins. So helping them is going to help me on the court in the long run and then that will help whatever contract stuff. So you have to be selfless.”

He has already planned another day of paintball, one last team outing before the regular season gets underway.

This time, coaches are invited.

“I told him if I go I’m going to have the biggest sweatsuit on possible,” Scott said, chuckling, “because those things hurt.”

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Good read. I think he's going to be a great addition for us for what he brings both on and off the court. He's a very quiet, reserved leader (same with Bass) which will be the good cop to Kobe's (albeit softened) bad cop routine.

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Hibbert's efforts to get the group to gel are very apparent. Whenever something good happens on the court, Hibbert's got a celebration going on. My favorite was him walking off the court with his hands in the air after Nance laid down that dunk. Just seeing stuff like that has to get the other guys engaged and feeling good. And we all saw how everyone came together in celebration of RKelly's Ibelieveicanfly moment. Fun stuff.

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Anyone catch Open Court, everybody made fun of Isaiah Thomas because he picked the Lakers to make the playoffs. But Zeke said the main reason was Big Roy. Hopefully it comes true. I still have no idea what we can do as a team because of Byron's 1 full quarter for each player except JC rotation in the preseason.

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Hibbert is doing what Odom used to do...keeping things even keeled among them. He knows nothing was easy or handed to him so he had to put in extra effort to succeed. Witnessing how more athletic his teammates in comparison, he's encouraging them to improve and be better prepared mentally. Good people...

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