Rui Hachimura Discussion: Huge Buckets

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    Yeah yeah absolutely, there's no cap for staff! I was honestly expecting to have a lot more hires by now but little by little we seem to be boosting up. A lot of growth to be had there.

    But I was referring to some comments I've seen with people mentioning Walter's big pockets as a factor this summer and it's not
     
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    I'm a pass on Rui unless you can get him for around $15 million.

    He was efficient but he can't do anything else out there... The fact is, Rui will never be a good rebounder, defender, or playmaker. So you're essentially left with a guy who is good at hitting midrange and 3's. It's just not good enough if you're stressed out for $ for salary cap purposes. You need guys who have the potential to do more of the dirty work.

    I think another issue is this looks a lot difference if Rui is able to take 7-8 threes per game. I get that he's not getting the shot attempts to do so but he takes a very low amount of 3's per game so even though he's efficient from it, the volume isn't there. It's in the same way similar to Kennard... Yeah, he can shoot the hell out of the ball but when you're only taking 4 of them per game, the value just isn't there enough.

    For the Lakers to get to the next level, they need more versatile wings. Guys who can switch multiple positions and have an impact besides scoring. Reaves+Luka can score. Getting points won't be the core issue. It's whether you can make Reaves+Luka's life easier by doing the dirty things out there and Rui just doesn't do those things.
     
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    It’s also up to the coaching staff to get our top shooters more looks. Kennard has taken 6 a game before at 45%. We should be able get 5 each for Rui and Luke, and another 5 for our starting 3 (example Thybulle). That’s 15 shots at 40%+, that’s 20 points off our 3 point shooting without Luka, Reaves and LeBron’s attempts.

    We have the opportunity to be one of the better 3 pt teams in the league, why fight it when we have 2 of those pieces already off the bench and another 2-3 high volume shooters in the starting lineup.

    Rui at 16 per makes sense. Yes he isn’t a great rebounder, but he is an average defender so he is a very high 3 and an okay D, who can raise his offensive output with usage. Sign that.
     
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    I see it this way, if he was a good rebounder and defender, he'd probably be commanding 40M+ in today's market with his size and shooting combination. That's what guys like Anunoby make.

    Rui was incredible when it mattered, I don't care he was crap in the regular season. Absolutely worth keeping him at a fair contract, meaning under 20M
     
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    Great postseason. This man actually deserves a raise.
     
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    It’s wild to me that we, as a fan base, have been complaining for year after year after year for a dead-eye shooter and we when finally have him, many want him gone for some mythical player who shoots like Rui, but plays better defense.
    Just wild.
     
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    Just go to posts from mid April backwards all year. I didn't see anyone wanting him to stay.

    I also still don't see his 20M value when Luka, AR and Bron are on the floor. That lineup was proven to not work and everyone wanted Smart to start for Rui.
    Rui averaged 10pts a game all season when we were whole. He scored more when either Luka or Bron were out. He had his worst month in March when the team had his best month.

    Overpaying and overvaluing players based on a series or 2 is the bread and butter of this league for bad decisions.

    It's hard to see a value we can pay him that allows to address the other more needed holes and reflects his value to this team
     
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    We'll miss him when he's gone too.
     
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    We will. Can't have everybody and a lot of folks are not reasonable and change opinions like they do shorts.
     
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    both of these.
     
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    Life is fluid...so are opinions. Rui will be missed IMO.
     
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    saw this quote elsewhere, and i might need to go dig up the video, because the first part is a weird thing to say that makes me ask a lot of questions.
     
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    I saw the interview and it didn't jump out, maybe a misquote because yeah I don't get what comfortable with the FO means
     
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    Maybe they explained their plans to open franchised Rui fast sushi huts in Japan?


    :Magic Brows:
     
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    It reads to me like Rob is saying that Rui wasn't listening to the coaches or FO previously, and now he is.

    Rui's quote about not liking the 3 would fit in with this. Maybe they want him to take more 3's, and he doesn't.
     
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    growing exponentially...with his professionalism...

    i just wonder what the hell that means.

    edit: panko's response makes some sense. i'd like to know when the starting and ending points where on this exponential growth, as it would maybe inform my thinking on how much of a priority he is in FA.
     
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