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Oh God, spare us the virtue signaling. Don’t turn this place into that s***hole lakersground.net.

The mods took that crap out years ago for a reason. We didn’t need a dissertation on how great of a person you are.

 

Why do you think this?
I don’t know the man never seen him speak before so I will give him the benefit of that.If someone who knows him(family,Friends) come out with something of the sort then I can give that opinion credence

 

the manner of speaking in the videos. i'm a psychologist. the guy doesn't seem ok at all. donovan's quote seems to be strongly hinting at this.

 

they really need a commish who is going to get rid of s*** like this



oh, and SGA shot 25 FTs last night to the pistons 23. just another night at the office

 

Making this about free speech seems to be more about the culture warriors than what the Bulls were seeing. The statements from the team is that he had become a problem in the locker room and his rants were not just about guys but also about Catholics etc and he was going on screeds about his love of apple pie? It should be noted he was a healthy scratch before the release so things had spilled over. This seems similar to Kanye where he's making all sorts of bizarre statements and now it turns out his mental health was in the toilet and there was all sorts of issues going on.

Scalia once wrote freedom of religion didn't mean freedom from religion and similarly, freedom of speech doesn't mean you don't get to live without the consequences of speech. In this case I would look at the totality of speech not just headlines which get the clicks

I hope he gets helps as he's a talented player

 

I think Irwin made the point that the Ayton/Hayes center combo has had this weird trait as neither seems to play well in the same game. It feels like if one is hot the other turns off (I could see the psychology behind this - not going to get many minutes tonight if the other dude is hot).

This seems to be getting better since Ayton got his head out of his a**? That could be big as if both can play well let alone at their best in the same games the center combo becomes a legit threat that other teams have to accoutn for. Big difference from last year and even frankly over large stretches of the regular season. That's one position that went from a negative to one that can win you some games in the playoffs

 

Imo if you give both give theses guys a consistent 20-24 mpg you are good. Last night, Ayton had 22, and Hayes had 20. That's not too bad. Can't expect constancy if you are giving them inconstant minutes.

 

doc rivers makes the HOF for winning one title with a team that a rock could've coached to a title lmao

and stoudemire is a weak choice even for the NBA HOF

 

Exactly. I haven't heard the comments, so I don't know how "bad" they actually were.bI feel like even if you just said you disagreed with all of that in respectful way, you're still done for. It is interesting what is tolerated and what isn't for owners. It all boils down to public outrage, and comments like those will cause that more than DV, or OUI's, it seems.

 

You said it well Abeer.

 

nah I don’t have a problem with free speech. I have a problem with what he said. You can say it. But I can disagree. Do you think Donald Sterling should’ve had to sale his team for saying I don’t want black people coming to my games??? Or Why do you have to associate with black people? That’s free speech. If someone says I hate black people. That’s free speech. We dont have to like it. But there will be consequences.

 

Mark Cuban at it again. Sour grapes for selling his team. Then why’d you sale your team?

 

dude seriously????? I’m not the one. I’ll let you know quick. I’m not the PC police but if you’re going to offer your opinion and come at me. About what I said I’m gonna respond to yours and give you mine. I didn’t get political with you. I don’t know how you vote nor do I care. And you don’t know how I vote. Nobody is taking this to politics. You don’t need to have politics to know that people deserve respect. And I could care less who you go to bed with. Just treat others with respect and respect others. I got a simple thing I go by respect others and treat them as you’d like to be treated. Nobody asked for Ivey to go on a rant. No I could care less about him a player making 10 million. I don’t go to him for what I should do. Don’t act like you’re on a high horse and tell others what they should be doing. The reason we talked about it cause it was a basketball issue. You know what’s funny about pride? You have a choice attend a parade watch a parade. Participate or don’t participate and that’s fine do what you gotta do. We have all kinds of events Puerto Rican day parade participate don’t participate it’s fine. We’ve had events with the Dodgers of all kinds pride black heritage Philippino heritage military salute to service law enforcement Latino heritage. Participate or don’t participate. Let that group celebrate what they want. And it’s very easy to say I don’t agree with choices they make but I understand people have rights and our league supports all people. Period full stop.

 

Ellene Dell Done. Is a hall of famer. She had a Carmelo Anthony game to her. KD Kevin Durant game to her. Delawares finest. Too bad injuries got her. I’m glad she’s better with her mental health.

 

I hear everything you’re saying. Kanye had mental health issues. How do you compare Ivey and Kyrie? They fined Kyrie made him issue an apology. And he was basically ostracized. No fine for Ivery but fine for Kyrie? For saying I knew who my people are. From a video he watched. That was a pretty controversial one. Cause I never thought that Kyrie was anti semitic.

 

I hear everything you’re saying. Kanye had mental health issues. How do you compare Ivey and Kyrie? They fined Kyrie made him issue an apology. And he was basically ostracized. No fine for Ivery but fine for Kyrie? For saying I knew who my people are. From a video he watched. That was a pretty controversial one. Cause I never thought that Kyrie was anti semitic.

 

kyrie has some odd beliefs and isn't afraid to speak his mind, but i just don't think his situation is much like ivey's. i really think ivey needs some professional help ASAP. this is a cleaner-cut version of a delonte west type situation, imo.

 

Yeah I agree, completely aside from the content of anything Ivey said I don't think he's doing well. Hope he has some people that reach out to him.