Jaxson Hayes Discussion: He's Back

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  1. abeer3

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    i'll quibble: by the time DFS got here, he had a pretty substantial record of not being very impactful (this is why i lol'd when the nets were going around asking for three firsts for him), so the leeway he got from both fans and jj was about as deserved as laravia's, and for the same reasons--not past, present--he's willing to do the dirty work on both ends.

    laravia has actually been a better player for us than DFS was last year (don't even look at DFS this year), and that's with the bad shooting.
     
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    Umm arguing that DFS was overrated and not good is one thing but the metrics hate Jake
    People give a lot more leeway to guys who are likable (i.e. hustle, look like they give a s***) but I'm really surprised especially if you've been watching games over the last month of how bad Laravia has been. Teams literally do not close out on him on the perimeter. It's not just missing shots but they are playing 5 on 4 defense similar to what teams did to Vando in the playoffs. This isn't good when it's regular season and teams are doing this without the prep time of playoffs.

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    ironically, you should be arguing for your favorite player vando to be getting jake's minutes, lol.

    anyway, this is the hayes thread, and he is, sadly, our 4th best player this year by the numbers, with smart/ayton/kennard/vando after that.

    it's slim pickins.
     
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    :Laugh:
    LaRavia shade in the Jaxson thread?
     
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    I’ll rescue you from page 2 Jax. Great game last night. He was a blocking machine. Got to make you free throws though.
     
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    He was indeed great, 5 blocks, not far off a double-double again.
     
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    What's this stat?

    Rui's numbers and Smart's offense are atrocious
    Problem is he got outplayed in the playoffs. That's a liability and shortens the rotation. You're pushed to go small even if you don't have the personnel. Ideally you'd have a big or 2 you can play in the playoffs.
    He's better this year so maybe he works out in this postseason

    I also don't think we solve our center situation this summer. But I'm also not sure Ayton's comes back. He's highly inconsistent and can be outplayed mentally.
    I think the playoffs will determine how we approach the center position in the summer

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    eh, gobert's been an absolute liability in deep round playoff games many times. lots of times, teams simply don't play bigs in big moments. again, unless they're an allstar.

    i'm all in on not paying big for centers unless they're like, jokic. hayes/ayton can get you to where you're playing lebron as draymond center in the closing lineups.
     
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    Are we ever going to stop talking about the MN series last year? WTF! Reaves is stronger and at a higher level of play this year which along with Luka being in shape and our center situation vastly improved compared to last year, Smart, LaRavia, Kennard and a deeper squad …. which all contributed to us sweeping their a**es THIS year. Same thing with Hayes this season with 10-15lbs more muscle and improved all around game. Eff MN!
     
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