Harden wins MVP based on vote of players. UGH! BA players have long since stressed that the way they evaluate team and individual performances differs from fans and media. In the NBA players association's first ever "Players' Awards," they underlined the supposed distinction, selecting James Harden as Most Valuable Player. Stephen Curry finished 262 voting points and 75 first-place votes ahead of Harden to win the traditional MVP award, as voted on by select media members, for the 2014-15 season. But Harden, who finished ahead of Curry this past regular season in points and rebounds per game but behind him in advanced statistics such as player efficiency rating (PER) and ESPN's Real Plus-Minus, was the players' choice, emerging from backstage at the Penn & Teller Theater at the Rio Las Vegas to accept the trophy after not sitting in the audience for the other award announcements. Among those whom Harden thanked during his acceptance speech was the players' union, for "giving players a voice to speak their minds." Curry was named by players as this year's "Clutch Performer" and "Hardest to Guard." He and Golden State Warriors teammates Andre Iguodala, Harrison Barnes and Festus Ezeli also accepted the award for the best home-court advantage, which went to the reigning champions' Oracle Arena. LeBron James, who finished third in traditional MVP voting, won the award for "Player you secretly wish was on your team." James, who was elected in February as the NBPA's first vice president, and DeAndre Jordan were among the notable players who didn't attend Sunday's taping. Players also named San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich -- and not 2015 coach of the year winner Mike Budenholzer of the Atlanta Hawks -- as the "Coach you most want to play for" and Jordan as "Best Defender." Defensive player of the year Kawhi Leonard and runner-up Draymond Green didn't finish among the four leading vote-getters. Chris Paul won the Oscar Robertson Visionary Award for his on- and off-court achievements, and Ray Allen was named "Man of the Year" for his, receiving a video tribute from President Barack Obama that left Allen visibly emotional. Allen Iverson also was given the "Gamechanger" award for his contributions to the sport. In his acceptance speech, Iverson, the league MVP in the 2001, echoed most other winners by noting the importance of the distinction coming from his peers. "This is one of the most special awards I've ever received because it comes from y'all," Iverson said, referencing the players in attendance. Five months earlier, at All-Star Weekend, Kevin Durant, issued a rallying cry for players' right to vote on their awards. "Yeah, I think media and guys get too much power to vote on stuff that, quite frankly, I don't think you really know a lot about [or] as much as we know about it," Durant said. "So, yeah, we play against these guys every single night. We battle against these guys. We know what they say on the court. We know how they handle their teammates. We know how they approach the game. And our vote should count. Our opinions should count. Like I said, I don't think you guys know as much as we do, and I don't see why you have more power than we do." "You guys really don't know s---," Durant told reporters. Those in attendance at Sunday's event weren't as pointed, but they agreed that players should have a say in the process. "When you really think about it, who really knows us players better than our players," said Chris Paul, the president of the NBA players' union. "Not to take away anything from [media members], who get the opportunity to vote on all the different awards, but I think we sort of know each other -- we know who are the guys, who guys like, stuff like that. This is the first year, and I think next year we'll have an opportunity to make it even better." Since 1981, the NBA's official annual awards have been voted on by a panel of media members selected by the league. "All I know is that the [players] have a sense of who they respect and whose game they respect, in a way that the media can't possibly know, because the media hasn't played with these guys," said Michele Roberts, the executive director of the NBPA. "So it's an interesting, different perspective. I don't want to say that one's better than the other. It's up to you. But it's interesting to me to hear what the players have to say about their brothers." Said Paul Pierce: "I think that this is awesome. Players are moving in a whole other direction, showing what we can do when we put our minds to it. You see all these other award shows -- the ESPYs, the BET awards. Players thought about it and said, 'Why not us have one.' We have our choices for All-Stars, we have our choice for MVP, but we don't get our chance to voice that. And I think here at the Players' Awards we get our chance to voice our opinion of who was the best team or best crowd or best player, and I think it's great." http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13298307/james-harden-named-mvp-nbpa-first-annual-players-awards
Watched it on BET. still wondering why Korver was there. The players made some interesting choices (Harden, defense) and some very obvious ones (Curry)
Huh, I'd never heard of these awards before, I think it's actually pretty interesting. I'm not really high on the media voting for awards like MVP, but I'm not really high on players doing it either, as they can and will have bias playing with certain guys. Taking into account that long-term journalists, and I believe some former coaches who are announcers now vote as part of the media, I'll still take them over players. This is interesting as a secondary thing though. The award given to Iverson sounds like a cool thing, I'm sure he appreciates not feeling forgotten, because he really was a game changer with some of the stuff he did. I also love Durant'a quote, that's classic, "you guys don't really know s***".
@Weezy this is the first year. Well, they used to vote on MVP (back when Kareem was winning them, as the media would've never gave him 6 MVPs), but I'm not sure what year that stopped and the media took over. IMO, it should be a combo of the players, media, and possibly the fans having some input. But if the fans are involved, it should be limited to the top 5 finalist or something like that because otherwise, someone like Yao Ming would be MVP.
I think award vote weight should be something like 30% coaches/gms, 30% media, 30% players, 10% fans.
I love this. I hope this continues for a long time. The media has poisoned so many of the awards we get these days. I'd love if the players get to eventually make the other awards either more even with reality or replace them (I know that won't happen).
This is cool. I think Kobe could've won a couple more of these if the players had been picking the best back then
Harden as MVP and Jordan as DPOTY? :MitchReally: Well, it looks like the media actually do know more than the players.
"You guys really don't know s---," abeer3 told Durant. seriously, though, the harden and Jordan picks scream lazy media member votes to me. and keep in mind that their results have to be different than the media's, or the event is pointless. and they want their extra trip to vegas, lord knows. no one talks about their awards if curry gets the mvp and budenholzer gets COY. I've always thought current coaches know the most about who's the best player/most difficult to scheme against. maybe gms too. I always like the FO polls more than the media votes, and, apparently, the player votes.
Like that idea, might take the fans out, might end up like the all star game. If players solely voted think it would be biased as well.
Actually Shelburne said most players she talked to all year said Harden was the MVP. I mean when Howard was out, Harden did everything for that team and kept them in the playoffs. I mean over the course of the season, he's not my MVP but I get it.
I don't have a real problem with any of the player choices. I may have voted differently on a couple, but I wouldn't say anyone who received awards was totally undeserving. I also don't have a problem with players voicing their opinion on who they think really deserve certain awards.
As much as I hate Harden's game, I think it's a fact he had a fantastic season and did something amazing with the Rockets. Actually, my vote for MVP was neither for Harden or Curry, it was for Westbrook, who, even if he didn't make the Playoffs (imo, he would've even gotten homecourt advantage if he were in the East), I thought he was an absolute beast last season. The best player that just happened to have less help than Harden or Curry (or does this "help" thingy only works for LeBron?). But then again, I've never really liked this award. And that said, I also prefered Curry over Harden, but even if there are two guys I have over Harden, I can't just dismiss what he did, and I can't really say he didn't deserve it.
Man, Unibrow still gets no Love. People talk about Westbrook having a ball out season without Durant, but Anthony Davis made it to playoffs without Durant too...so...
I thought Davis had a terrific year, but I he's like twelve feet tall and athletic. Russell was putting up triple-doubles left and right coming off a serious injury and almost single-handedly got his team in the playoffs... That being said, since he didn't get in he's not my MVP. My MVP is still Curry.
I think the awards the players come up with should have a different spin. Let the media define MVP as the "best player on the best team" Make yours something different. How about Best Player? Period. Why create controversy by revoting the same awards? It basically says to the media, "You didn't get it right and don't know basketball, so we'll show you how to vote." I see a benefit in spinning it differently if there is a way.
I think you misunderstood me. I was suggesting that the players choosing harden makes me doubt their wisdom as much as I doubt that of the media. I'm still sort of in disbelief of the harden love. he seems to have won over most of the lakers fans at this point. dude's a fraud, imo. a couple nice performances in the playoffs sort of masked the bulk of the data, which were in line with his previous failings. he looked like the same player this year, only SA laid an egg against NO in the season finale and LAC choked (epically), so instead of being a 6 seed and first round out, they went to the conference finals. we'll see who's right about him this year, I suppose. edit: and I agree with sirron about the nature of the awards. once again, they HAD to choose someone else, or their awards were stupid. that they went with the guy who finished second in the media vote is sort of lame. I would have been more impressed had they chosen LeBron, paul, westbrook, or davis. all clearly better players than harden, all as or more important to team success. LeBron carried matthew dellavafreakingdova and scrubs to a 2-1 finals lead over a 67-win juggernaut at full strength. but you know, FTAs and stuff...
I don't love Harden, I just stopped hating him I guess. Is he a fraud? I suppose so, but I'm not comparing him to anyone but the current crop of players. Even when he's NOT propped up I think he's probably the best offensive SG in the game right now. I'd compare him to probably Ginobili if Manu was a 1st option and given the help of Wade. Manu is still a good player, no?
