Roy Hibbert Discussion 2015-16: No Buyout

I think Hibbert is actually more impactful than Jordan defensively. Just from spectators standpoint, Hibbert is excellent at keeping his verticality and changing shots, keep balls in play, where as DJ always seems to go for the big block and is either caught out of position or blocks the ball out of bounds.

I found some more advanced stats regarding rim protection:

http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/rim-protection/

Player/Team/Minutes/Contest%/ Rim FG Allowed %/Pts Saved per Game/ Pts Saved per 32

Roy Hibbert/IND/25.3/53.9%/42.6% /1.84/2.62

DeAndre Jordan/LAC/34.4/44.6%/48.5%/0.17/0.18

 

Great presser. He certainly said all the right things to give us fans something to be hopeful and optimistic about. He seems determined to turn things around and get his mojo back...hoping he can pull it off.

 

The DJ/Hibbert argument is a tough one. DJ is the better pure shotblocker, but Roy is a much smarter defender and I think he contributes more to the overall team defense. DJ has no offense at all, putbacks and being spoonfed due to his athleticism, which will fade. Hibbert actually has an offensive game. He isn't Shaq or even Bynum offensively, but you can atleast throw the ball in the post and trust him to make something happen other than getting fouled and hitting less than half of his FT's. DJ has a huge edge in rebounding, Roy is pretty pathetic in that department while DJ is possibly the best in the league. DJ would be locked in to a 4 year deal, while Hibbert will be a FA next summer and it might take a max offer starting over 25M to keep him.

Assuming Randle is going to get significant minutes and keep rebounding like a SF, the main things we needed from our C was rebounding and defense. DJ has a much bigger edge in rebounding than Hibbert does on defense, and assuming we're going to stick with either guy, DJ's contract will end up being more cap friendly. We seem pretty loaded with offensive talent, so I'm not sure Hibbert's advantage there matters much. As of today I'd say DJ would have been a slightly better addition. My main concern with DJ is that his entire game relies upon athleticism. 1 injury or just aging poorly and we could kiss the rebounds, blocks, and his already limited offensive game goodbye. If he can't play above the rim he might aswell not be on the court.

 

His AIM screenname was lil2fresh. Hilarious

 

I'm hopeful that the change of scenery will do him good. He's been in LA since May, so I think it's no doubt his handlers lobbied for LA. What we don't need is this:

 

Can anyone tell me How's hibbert skill set as a passer out of the post?

 

I like Hibbert's answers. I like it that he knows that there is alot of fire power on the team and that he needs to focus on defense. He has that look in his eyes that WANTS to be an all star again.

 

I think Hibbert is in a place in his career where he just wants praise, any of it. He heard so much criticism in the last years, its gotta be tough. So if he can hear the crowd roar with pleasure with each block or defensive play he makes, he will take it. At this point, I don't think he is the type of guy who will cry for not getting enough touches.

 

Here's the difference: Bynum was a child, D12 acts like a child, Shaq acted like a child who was an ego maniac and clinging on to what he felt should be his before Kobe ripped it away from him.

Hibbert is a grown man. He might be mentally weak, but I've seen no ego in indy or any incidents of him trying to make a power grab on the offensive end. He knows his strengths/weaknesses at this point and where he'll make his money next summer -- by dominating the defensive end this season and pushing us up from some of the worst defensive rankings in the entire league.

 

Jordan and Hibbert's "impact". I guess we need to define if it's positive or negative impact.

Hibbert had his issues in a playoff series for sure.

Jordan's impact to the Clippers in every playoff series is evident as well. People get caught up in athleticism and miss the nuances of the game that truly do matter. Jordan is really a smoke screen IMHO. His team was much worse off with him at center this year in the playoffs because of his glaring lack of a complete game. They lost time outs trying to get him out of the game and he was put on the line twice as much in the playoffs than in the regular season. That cannot be understated and it was definitely impactful on their chances of winning. Jordan's chasing of blocked shots breaks down the defense as much as it helps it as well.

I will take a non-spectacular two way player over a dunker/beast/amazing/athletic one way player every time. Great teams rarely have one way players in key roles.

If Hibbert give us he career average numbers per minute I'd say we got a better player for this team than we could have gotten in Jordan.

 

I'd love Shaw to be an assistant here. But by no means do I think he threatens Byron. I don't know if Shaw is a head coach in this league. If he is, I don't think he's the guy we want to take over after Byron. The next guy needs to be a proven winner.