LABron James Discussion: The Big 4 0!

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  1. karacha

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    Of course it's embellished. He needs an excuse to rest.
     
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    Yeah I'm starting to think that him seeing Luka running the show will extend his career. He sees that we are legit contenders and as long as he continues playing he has a real shot at another ring.

    If he takes a pay cut, I'm all up for it. He's still a top20 player right now, it's crazy. And when he leaves we won't have enough cap space so we benefit from his presence.

    Just yesterday he made MPJ look like a G-league player just because he was mad he missed the FT before.
    He can play until 45 in the Draymond role. JJ said yesterday that Luka will handle the ball so Bron will save a ton of energy. He can defend better, go for it in mini spurts when needed and play less minutes during the whole season
     
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    I'm glad he skipped the AS game

    Our games are more important and no need to risk an injury in a meaningless game
     
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    I was watching the highlights again, doing some analysis... I think everyone benefits from having great playmakers like AR and Luka, but Bron is probably the biggest beneficiary on this team. They make the game much easier for him. Suddenly, he's not the main guy who needs not only to score a lot, but also to set everyone up. He immediately turned up his defensive intensity by at least 50%. It's unbelievable what kind of defense he can still play, switching from Murray to Jokic and doing it successfully, when he does not have to spend so much energy creating and scoring all game. He looks much more relaxed out there and the energy level is noticeably higher. He played 33 minutes, which is little bit less than usual (average is 35, and just over that few games before Luka joined the team), and now he needs to go down to 30 IMO.
     
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    I'm hoping games like like this will put those crazy notions to rest that Luka, LeBron and AR can't all start and that LeBron and AR can't play off ball. Great players figure it out. I no longer think LeBron will retire after this season. We are going to win multiple championships.
     
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    Yeah, he's going to get some of the easiest buckets of his career. Given the list of who he's played with, hell of a thing two decades in.
     
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    Interestingly enough, Luka is a much better fit with Bron than, say, Wade. Wade was - of course - absolutely great, but the fit was slightly awkward. This is a more natural combo for sure. It is why I expressed my regret that this has not happened at least 2-3 years earlier, since Bron has now completed his transition from "get out of my way, or I jump over you" downhill player, to the "old man strength" bully in the post with 3-point range. It would be so fun to see Luka passing the ball to the "full throttle" Bron of previous years, but it is what it is. Let's enjoy it while it lasts.
     
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    This season is the first time I can say I'm honestly enjoying LeBron being a Laker. I appreciated the championship but it wasn't the same. With the records behind him, he seems to be playing better team ball, or maybe he was all along and I was just too stubborn to see it. Other than some soreness he seems to be healthy which helps. I like seeing whether it is LeBron, Luka or AR that gets a rebound the fast break starts immediately. With JJ's coaching and the scrambling defense, we are watching real basketball.
     
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    Luka is a better fit than Wade - they were both lane drivers at the time (funnily enough Lebron had to develop his outside shot to improve their fit).

    Kyrie was an excellent fit at the Cavs, he was a high tier closer and pressure relief valve that shot a high percentage from everyone. But he was also injured often and unreliable.

    AD was another awkward fit, both of their best positions were playing the PF spot. AD also wasn’t a credible shooter. So there was some redundancy between them.

    Luka may be his best offensive fit yet, someone who can pass at the same high level and score from any range. Once they mesh, there should be lots of playmaking that unlocks easy baskets for the both of them.
     
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    Showtime!!
     
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    Lake Show is back in action

    :Noddingyes:
     
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    Doncic grabs the rebound, James leaks out, latter looks up and throws the dart. It could be a common occurrence from here on.
     
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    I kinda disagree with the Wade one. Wade was on the latter end of his career due to injuries. If that was prime Wade like it is near prime Luka right now, then it'd be interesting. Prime Wade was no joke.

    The AD one is interesting. As good as AD was, he was kinda limited offensively. Outside of his first Lakers season, he was primarily only able to score around the rim which kinda hurt the spacing. Luka adds another dimension offensively that benefits the entire team whereas if Bron was out, AD wouldn't be able to carry the team offensively.
     
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    Johnson to Worthy?
     
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    You disagree that Luka is a better fit than Wade? Wade in my opinion was a mini Lebron athletically, on the defensive end those two guys could be so disruptive. Bosh and Battier were an excellent fit around them and they were just a great team.

    Offensively I still think Luka will be LeBron’s best fit. He can jsut take so much of the load off LeBron in his later years. To be frank, each of the guys were a good fit because he won a ring with Wade, Kyrie and AD. So we’ll judge the Luka fit based on their playoff success too I suppose.
     
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    Well, hobbled Wade and Bron won two titles. If that was prime Wade, it would have been at least 3. By the fourth Finals, Wade's knees were completely shot. They should have beaten Dallas but it looked like Bron was lost for the entire series trying to defer.

    Offensively, today's game benefits a player like Luka more which is why PPG and field goal efficiency averages have been skyrocketing. Is there any question that a prime Kobe wouldn't be averaging 35 PPG routinely in today's game? It's just easier to score so players who would have more difficulty scoring in the mid 00's are shining.

    Luka's a great talent but prime Wade was super fun to watch. Especially in the 08-09 season. He was routinely ranked as a top 5 player for many years as well. We'd have to see what Luka accomplishes. If he keeps his trajectory and health up, he should be a top 10-15 player in NBA history.
     
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    Luka is the best fit because he’s the only guy in history that can replace Bron as a floor general and the offense will stay just as productive, but then now you get to have Lebron playing with someone who can feed him just as well as Stockton to Malone. So you increase Brons efficiency while at the same time keeping the offense being run by a GOAT floor general who actual makes Bron better. Bron basically gets to play with prime floor general Lebron
     
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    I mean by the numbers…The best floor generals in history are between Magic/Luka/Lebron…and by best I mean amazing floor generals but also unstoppable in their own right. If Stockton was 6-8 and could score 25 a night, along with everything else he did, which would add to his game dominat PG rebounding and scoring, then I would put him on this list also.
     
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    No Bird?
     

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