Game Debrief: What Went Right And What Went Wrong?

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by TIME, Oct 27, 2023.

  1. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,687
    Likes Received:
    77,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    it's possible our record differs by 5+ games already if teams just treated us like they treat other games.
     
    OverseasG, Panko, LakeShowAZ and 2 others like this.
  2. KuzmoBall17

    KuzmoBall17 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2017
    Messages:
    3,305
    Likes Received:
    5,605
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Who knew everybody took a magic pill lol
    Expected Lineup
    PG Derrick White
    SG Jrue Holiday
    SF Jaylen Brown
    PF Jayson Tatum
    C K. Porzingis
     
  3. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    3,145
    Likes Received:
    5,630
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah it's a pattern. But to be honest, I don't mind it, it's the cost of being the best basketball team in the world. It also help us to get the Brons and ADs of this world, so there's a price to pay. I embrace it
     
  4. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,299
    Likes Received:
    18,742
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    What a fantastic win. If we can’t win a championship every year, I take solace in beating the C Bags as often as possible.

    Always and forever Buck Foston
     
  5. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,490
    Likes Received:
    71,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Best defensive game of the season. Also best raised effort from the collective. JJ had them ready and everyone brought playoff-esque energy to this one.


    Also almost forgot:
    [​IMG]
     
  6. Zoyd Wheeler

    Zoyd Wheeler - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2021
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    3,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Lakers play a full 48 on both offense and defense and beat the living crap out of the damned C-Bags. I'm in Laker fan heaven right now!

    Lakers 117
    Bags 96

    Buck Foston!

    Up 15 at halftime, I was still nervous. I thought we downshifted in the 3rd and stopped moving the ball, jacked up some missed 3s for one-'n-dones, and totally expected the Bags to come back. When Tatum and Brown went 0-4 on FTs w/in a minute or so, I wondered: maybe it is our night? Still: the 3rd was a bit alarming. It was the only quarter we didn't win and we lost it 20-16.

    We definitely benefited from BOS being on a BTB.

    I got a bit worked up watching this one, I admit.

    Lakers played a really good 1st Q. Up 9 with about 30 secs left, Bron burns clock, works the ball up to the top of the arc, gets around Kornet and into the paint, and slams: up 11 to end the 1st. My gawd to be 40 and fly like that!

    Very physical game which made it extra fun. Especially when we're outshooting them from 3.

    Horrendous missed call: AD gets the ball under the hoop for what would be an easy slam, Tatum comes over and rakes across AD's hands, arms and head...NO CALL! AD was livid. I was livid. You were livid.

    I was worried the Bags would come out in the 4th and quickly get it under 10, but the Lakers made a 9-0 run and were up 24 with 10 minutes left. I started to feel high right about then.

    Then, up 25, one of the Bags' white guy buzzcut nightmares, Hauser, laces btb 3s. Our D had done something it doesn't do: chase guys off the 3 line. You get lax against the Bags and one of 'em will make you pay. With 7:33 left after Hauser's 26 footer, we're up 19. Then:

    AD hits a shot in the paint.
    AD blocks Pritchard
    AD hits a 13 footer dished from Bron: back up 23.

    What went Right: We beat the damned Boston C-Bags! Everything else is gravy.
    What went Wrong: I got nuthin'. (Bronny didn't hit his FGA in garbage?)

    I thought Jaxson gave us some strong mins.
    Dig: Max covering 'Zingis!
    Dig: Max on Tatum. Max on Brown. Tatum: 5 for 12. Jaylen: 7 for 19. Oh hell yeah. HAIL yes.

    Best win of the season. I wish we had a deeper roster, but we got some really good mins from all the starters, Gabe, DFS, Jaxson, and DK: 3 for 4 from long. 13 points in 14 mins.

    Savor this one, Lakersball.com
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2025 at 3:03 AM
    Juronimo, KuzmoBall17, abeer3 and 7 others like this.
  7. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,828
    Likes Received:
    32,262
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    My favorite game of the season thus far! Eff Boston!
     
  8. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,687
    Likes Received:
    77,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    a hearty "you're welcome" to everyone, as my decision to not even record this one created a direct causal chain to the victory. i'm certain of it.


    i'll try to watch the replay, but 27 assists to 6 turnovers?! where the hell has this team been?
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2025 at 5:36 AM
  9. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,812
    Likes Received:
    61,165
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
  10. sk2408

    sk2408 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2022
    Messages:
    1,094
    Likes Received:
    2,527
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    This team lol. Before the Wizards game I was starting to think about LeBron and AD offseason trades. This morning I'm looking at the West standings and thinking "you know, if we could just get the 6 seed and be on the opposite side of the bracket of OKC/Denver...". Credit to LeBron and AD for actually backing up the leaks to Shams about wanting to improve the roster.
     
  11. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,515
    Likes Received:
    9,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Just finished the game.
    I wish this team could provide this level of defense every night.
    Best win of the season so far!
     
  12. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    3,145
    Likes Received:
    5,630
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Ahahaha right??!! I feel the same, especially this year, it's crazy. Which tells me we have it in us, we are just unable to do it consistently.
     
  13. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,687
    Likes Received:
    77,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    excellent defense aside from knecht and basically every possession wherein we nonsensically went zone (and bailed out a pretty blah warriors offense).

    gpII, wiggins, and podz all hit some shots out of their a**** to offset steph having trouble getting untracked, but we got the workman-like road win that i honestly wasn't expecting. draymond being out helped, i think. they let him foul AD in ways that the rando dutch 10-day guy doesn't get to do.

    we let schroder get us in the first half, and i'm glad we went at him on offense after that. he's not a strong defender, despite the bizarre rep. he's just annoying. he can be scored on, by most anyone.

    too many early turnovers in this one for my liking, but we cleaned it up and after 6 in the first quarter we only had 5 the rest of the game. same with offensive rebounds. gave up 5 early but only about 5 for the rest of the game. when we have as many FGAs as the opposition, i bet our record looks good. gotta stop beating yourself on offense.

    thought max's two corner threes were the real key to the game. not only gave us a little breathing room but made them question their strategy a bit, which probably opened up the middle on some plays for AD/lebron.

    gs is dealing with the same stuff we are--you don't know whether you're getting mvp curry or aging curry from night to night, and it's hard to gameplan around that. same here with lebron, imo. add in that gs's frontcourt is kind of a skeleton crew (i know folks love tjd, but he's a backup at best, imo), and kerr's got a tougher job than people admit.

    also like us, i don't see the easy fix for them. any trade robs peter to pay paul, and they already have pauls to pay.

    us, phx, and gs are all on the way out.

    sorry, didn't mean to go dark after two nice wins.

    great to see vando back and doing all the vando things, just making plays on both ends. you just know he's out there at all times, and that's good.

    honestly, same with gabe lately. he's finally the guy we hoped we were getting last year. makes you wonder what our record would have been over the past 18 months with gabe and vando both undead.
     
    JSM, LakeShowAZ, SamsonMiodek and 7 others like this.
  14. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,299
    Likes Received:
    18,742
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Another fantastic win and I’m so glad Vando is back. He looked very confused and unsure of himself out there and still made a noticeable impact on the game. You forget how good a healthy in rhythm Vando really is. He can be impactful on both sides of the ball if you don’t have him only stand in the corner like Ham did.


    We have to get in the reps with zone just so we have it as an option to throw at a team during the playoffs. But I can’t say I’ve seen much of an aptitude for it so far.

    I’d give it a few more tries with some practice time before we scrap it.
     
  15. CarolinaLakerFan

    CarolinaLakerFan - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    1,975
    Likes Received:
    6,104
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    South Carolina
    Offline
  16. Zoyd Wheeler

    Zoyd Wheeler - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2021
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    3,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Lakers go into Chase Center and win 118-108 and Vando is BACK!

    We were up 12 then GSW got it down to 6. Moody makes a layup. 10:44 left in the game. Lakers up 6. I'm thinking it's Steph time.

    It wasn't.

    Lebron drives to the rack for a layup. Up 8.
    Curry dishes to Moody. We were swarming Steph and who knows how bad his thumb is, really, but he scored ZERO points in the 2nd half. Lakers by 6.
    Vando dishes to D F-S in the corner: swish! Lakers by 9
    Vando picks off a pass from Dennis, Lakers run, Vando shovels it to Bron, who freight-trains in for the layup: Lakers by 11. 8:52 left.

    Still time for GSW to come back. AR uses his body for a layup: Lakers by 13.
    From there they exchange hoops and FTs.
    With 5 mins left Gabe hits a 3. Lakers by 15. It's at this point I'm looking at body language and mentally slammed the fridge on GSW. No way are these guys coming back.
    They didn't.

    Our defense is coming around.

    I thought AD was bestial. 36/13 with 3 steals in 38 mins. GSW fouled the eff outta him and he went 10 for 12 from the line. At one point AD goes up for a 7 foot shot and it falls a foot short because someone hit him on the wrist. And Doris Burke makes a big deal out of that being a "soft" foul: Ehhh...No, Doris. I like you but sometimes you say jit that's just wrong, girl. Naw: it's stooopid.

    Another really solid win. This has been an up and down season already and we just hit the halfway point. I expect some really bad games coming...and maybe a lot more games where we play like we did tonight and like how we played against the damned Bags.

    We shot 54.7% overall
    GSW: 46.1%

    When we got it up to 15 I wanted us to really step on their throats and demoralize them, but I'll take this win.

    I live around GSW fans. They know I'm not one of 'em. It's so sweet to make them STFU again. We beat 'em in their own building tonight and on Xmas. Next two are in the Crypt, Feb 6th and April 3rd. Maybe Dray and Kuminga will play then.
     
    LakeShowAZ, abeer3, Kenzo and 4 others like this.
  17. wcsoldier81

    wcsoldier81 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,133
    Likes Received:
    9,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I can see a 2023 type of run IF we stay healthy AND IF we avoid Denver in the 1st two rounds .

    I enjoy watching this 2nd half defense .
     
  18. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,687
    Likes Received:
    77,258
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    yeah, that was weird. like it was an obvious foul that clearly impacted the shot. your argument would have to be that AD just airballs 8 footers sometimes. i'm certain that hitting steph's arm wouldn't have warranted the chatter. much less the full on hatchet jobs lebron gets, lol. they were fine when the refs were waiting to see if lebron made the shot before calling an obvious near-tackle.
     
  19. 52years

    52years - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2023
    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    528
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Online
    Heild got the exact same call when Gabe got his wrist on a three late in the game but that she determined an obvious foul
     
  20. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,184
    Likes Received:
    14,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Man Hield looks awful what has happened to him? He was legit good in Indiana
     
    Cookie and Barnstable like this.

Share This Page