D'Angelo Russell Discussion: Adopting A Professional Attitude

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    Wait til you get a gander at JHS next year though.

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    You just want to ruin my day every day:Kareemlook:
     
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    Noooooooooo :giggle:
     
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    I think a great coach can hide FLO’s weaknesses, but nobody is sure we’ll get that.
     
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    The problem is the bad defense with the Austin and DLo pairing.
    We should just sign him to a reasonable deal and try and trade him at the deadline.
     
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    I would agree sign and trade is a decent option if we can get a sizeable big back. Maybe he's a fit in NO, and they will do a sign and trade with the center they don't plan to resign.

    If we get Dinwiddie back, I'm ok with that. I feel like I have no idea what we really have with Gabe. Love to see him healthy, but I like the team approach, doing the dirty work, and the fundamentals like blocking out that seem to be in short supply on our squad.
     
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    Gabe looked very solid when he was healthy with Miami- at least from what I saw of him in the playoffs. I too liked what Dinwiddie brought, when he was given proper burn. It will be another drama filled summer. With our cap issues, Rob has his work cut out for him. At least he gives me reason to be hopeful, based on what he was able to do last summer.
     
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    With Ham gone we have a good chance to re-sign him.
     
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    Maybe. Depends how much/if LeBron and new coach and FO want him back to pay more than what he may be offered, and DLO will need to be assured he's a starter.
     
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    feel like dlo as trade bait hurt us to start the year last year. if we really don't see a long-term situation with him, we need to let him walk or, better, work hard to s&t him for something of use to us (even if it's just an expiring contract). we can't have an important player feeling like he's on borrowed time. even with all the "it's a business" talk from players, this definitely impacts things.
     
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    Nick offering a completely objective and unbiased take on the situation.

    :Laugh:
     
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    lol, he's still mad about that?
     
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    Was thinking that HAD to be fake, but maybe not…
     
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    Yeah certainly wouldn't doubt he's still bitter about it and probably said it, but wonder where the original quote link is. For now it's only hearsay and you know what @KareemtheGreat33 thinks of that.
     
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    Ahh yes, his famous quote. “Hearsay is like coconuts and buttholes. As long as I’m near one, I’m happy”


    Never understood that one myself. Strange guy.
     
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    You guys are worse than Lonzo and Kuz.
     
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    Ok, I'm playing with the new and improved ChapGPT4o today, and here was one of my questions to it:
    https://chat.openai.com/share/b6fb896a-59f7-4785-85ee-013437c4ac5d


    Here is the answer that came back in literally only seconds:


    Searched 4 sites
    Los Angeles Lakers Team Roster and Salary Cap
    Current Roster and Salaries (2023-2024)

    • LeBron James: $47,607,350
    • Anthony Davis: $40,600,080
    • D'Angelo Russell: $18,672,000
    • Austin Reaves: $12,215,909
    • Rui Hachimura: $15,680,000
    • Jarred Vanderbilt: $4,640,000
    • Jaxson Hayes: $2,473,904
    • Gabe Vincent: $10,500,000
    • Christian Wood: $2,232,716
    • Cam Reddish: $2,036,318
    • Taurean Prince: $4,500,000
    • Max Christie: $1,719,864
    • Jalen Hood-Schifino: $3,741,120
    The total team salary is approximately $169.93 million, which is above the current salary cap of $136.02 million, pushing them into luxury tax territory.

    Salary Cap and Rules
    The NBA salary cap for the 2023-2024 season is set at $136.02 million with a luxury tax threshold of $165.29 million. Teams can exceed the cap using various exceptions, including the Bird rights, mid-level exceptions, and minimum salary exceptions.

    Trade Ideas for Donovan Mitchell
    1. Trade Idea 1: Two-Team Trade
      • Lakers Receive: Donovan Mitchell
      • Cavaliers Receive: D'Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, and a 2025 first-round pick
      • Rationale: The Lakers acquire a dynamic scorer in Mitchell, while the Cavaliers get a young playmaker in Russell, a versatile forward in Hachimura, and a future first-round pick.
    2. Trade Idea 2: Three-Team Trade
      • Lakers Receive: Donovan Mitchell
      • Cavaliers Receive: D'Angelo Russell, Jarred Vanderbilt, and a future first-round pick from the Lakers
      • Third Team (e.g., Spurs) Receive: Rui Hachimura
      • Rationale: This trade allows the Lakers to get Mitchell while distributing assets efficiently. The Cavaliers gain depth with Russell and Vanderbilt, and the third team (Spurs) gets a promising player in Hachimura for additional draft compensation.
    3. Trade Idea 3: Sign-and-Trade Scenario
      • Lakers Receive: Donovan Mitchell
      • Cavaliers Receive: D'Angelo Russell (sign-and-trade), Austin Reaves, and a 2027 first-round pick (top-4 protected)
      • Rationale: If Russell opts out of his current contract, a sign-and-trade deal could be structured to facilitate the trade. The Cavaliers receive a combination of established and young talent along with a valuable future pick.
    Considerations
    • The Lakers will need to navigate the luxury tax implications and potential hard cap issues depending on the specific trade structure.
    • Including draft picks and balancing salaries to match the NBA trade rules is crucial for any proposed trade to be successful.
    • Evaluating the long-term impact on team chemistry and roster flexibility is essential.
    By utilizing available assets and leveraging salary cap exceptions, these trade scenarios provide feasible paths for the Lakers to acquire Donovan Mitchell, enhancing their chances of competing for a championship.

    For detailed information, refer to sources like Spotrac and RealGM for up-to-date rosters and salary cap details (spotrac.com) (RealGM) (spotrac.com).

    Since it showed Salary Cap for 2023-24, I did the following just in case:

    Los Angeles Lakers Projected Salary Cap for 2024-2025
    Projected Roster and Salaries
    The Lakers' projected salary cap for the 2024-2025 season is $141 million. Here's a breakdown of their key players and salary commitments for that season:

    • LeBron James: $51,415,938 (Player Option)
    • Anthony Davis: $43,219,440
    • D'Angelo Russell: $18,692,307
    • Rui Hachimura: $17,000,000
    • Austin Reaves: $12,976,362
    • Gabe Vincent: $11,000,000
    • Jarred Vanderbilt: $10,714,286
    • Jalen Hood-Schifino: $3,879,840
    • Christian Wood: $3,036,040
    • Jaxson Hayes: $2,463,946
    • Cam Reddish: $2,463,946
    • Maxwell Lewis: $1,891,857
    Total committed salary: approximately $179.75 million.

    Cap Holds and Options
    • Taurean Prince: $5,419,200 (Cap Hold)
    • Max Christie: $2,321,816 (Restricted Early Bird Rights)
    • Skylar Mays: $2,244,249 (Two-Way Contract Cap Hold)
    Salary Cap and Tax Implications
    The Lakers' total salary commitments push them well above the projected salary cap of $141 million and the luxury tax threshold of $172 million. They will need to navigate these financial constraints carefully when considering trades and signings.

    The trade ideas came back identical, so I'm not reposting those.

    I'm not saying these are complete or great options, but this literally answered this request in less than 10 seconds. We are entering into a brave new world rather quickly.
     
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    :Magicwow4: …. SERIOUSLY
     
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