Head Coach Discussion: Canned Ham, Who Is Our New Coach?

Questions begging to be asked. Who has subjectively the strongest, deepest and most talented roster top to bottom when at full strength .... Suns or Lakers? Which team has been hampered the most with injuries ..... the Suns (especially considering to their stars) or the Lakers (especially considering their stars have been mostly healthy)? Which team has the better record in the tough western conference .... the Suns at 34-24 or the Lakers at 31-28 ( )? Which team has the better offensive rating .... the Suns at 117.5 or the Lakers at 116.9 ( )? Which team has the better defensive rating .... the Suns at 114.6 or the Lakers at 115.1 ( )?

Which head coach has done the better job all things above considered .... Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham?

 

dang it all we should sign this Vogel guy, seems like a better head coach to me.

 

Patience? You still have any? Man you must be a Dalai Lama or Mother Theresa reincarnated.

 

I tried to rep Ham for awhile. But dude was burned to a crisp, and that s*** is carcinogenic

Time to cut the cancer out this offseason. What are our options though....?

 

For f*** sake!

 

It all makes sense now why TP plays 30 minutes instead of 17

 

still not an anthony irwin fan, as i think he picks and chooses his emphasis based on his own ideas (contrast to say, marc stein).

but you can't utter middleton and prince in the same sentence. this is wild.

the more i read, the more i'm sure ham's gone before we start making other summer moves. i've kind of hated most of what he's brought, almost from the jump. vogel was far superior.

 

I thought it was common knowledge that he is a moron and thus trying to replicate the only successful thing he's ever been a part of.

 

Middletonand wanting AD to take 6 threes to turn him into Brook Lopez in the comments

 

I hate all this for Prince because I think he was a good signing. Ham likes Prince because he plays hard and he doesn't have to guess whether or not the effort will be there. And I honestly get that to an extent especially with the lapses we see from guys.

He just plays him too much. It's really that straightforward.

 

I'll preface this by saying I think it's incredibly unlikely because we treated him like s*** that whole 2022 season, but is there any chance we actually do bring Frank back next season? If/when the Suns lose early in the playoffs I think Frank gets scapegoated and they promote Kevin Young to HC.

I seriously doubt it, but there aren't many proven veteran coaches out there. It's really just him and Stotts off the top of my head. Its probably also fair to ask whether this is the right roster for Frank.

 

Not with Rob, Rambis and Jeanie around. They call and he immediately throws the phone in the desert.


Irwin brought up this hypothetical. If the Clippers flame out, would they consider moving on from Lue? He only has one year on his deal after this one. I think Lue is overrated but he's 1000x the coach Ham is, it would appease Bron and we know there's been mutual interest. He had a damn Lakers cake when he thought we weren't going to cheap out on the offer.

 

I could see Lue coming here. Last season/offseason it kind of seemed like he was fed up with the Clippers. He was always complaining about not being able to build continuity because guys were in and out of the lineup. It seems like they all realized this year that they needed to take the regular season more seriously and they have, so I'm not sure if he's looking to leave.

 

that was the name i was going to mention, but i saw his contract had one more year.

i think he's overrated, but better than ham and has lebron's respect. would be a good story, but i think ballmer would rather self immolate than let it happen.

 

He deserves credit for putting Dlo as the outlet guy both as a corner shooter and the FT line dive outlet against the zone.

Outside of that: Why is your team so unprepared to guard a left handed player who goes left on you for like 5 straight possessions? They don't have Zubac: get the ball to AD, no Max when you're getting torched on D but you have to get Prince his minutes, playing Dinwiddie as a corner 3 shooter vs running PnR

 

How do do you not call a TO to get Lebron back in the game in OT?. He was out for 2 out of the last 3 minutes