Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

so i think his extension, if signed this summer, would go four years past the end of this contract (5 years out).

the trickier part is the raise. under the old rules, it was 120%, which i think would be fine for AD (starting at about 48 per). but the new rules are 140%, which would start him at 56 per. 56/60/65/70 instead of 48/52/56/60. that's a pretty big difference, imo.

i'd be comfortable with a full max extension at the 120% number and start to get squeamish at the 140% number. though i guess either way you're tying up a big chunk of the cap, by the end of the contract, you're basically out an MLE player.

 

I think he's proven he's a big risk to spend that much money on. I felt like his game/effort changed after his first big extension. No way I want to pay him 60+ mil and have to rely on him as the #1 option. He's not a #1 option on offense. That's too high for great defense alone. Hopefully he decides to be reasonable. The numbers are just so absurd now, and you can't blame the players for getting all they can. But what a gulf between the haves and the have nots in the league.

 

at the end of this contract, he'll be 35. if he's our best player at that point, we have bigger fish to fry.

re: inequity--the problem is that until another pistons-esque ensemble cast wins a title, basketball is probably the sport that has the strongest justification for this kind of wage gap. luka doncic is worth MORE than the combination of players that could equal his salary. at his peak, mj/lebron/kobe/shaq was probably worth the entire salary cap in some sense.

i've often wondered if just ditching the max would solve some of it. it's possible it could backfire spectacularly, though, resulting in even worse situations for the rank and file.

 

From how I understand it based on how it's being discussed on the pods and in articles, the likely outcome is a 3 year/170m-ish extension. Not sure if that's the max length or not, but it would break down like this:
Current year - still under contract for $40.6m
Next year - has to opt in to that year to get the extension, that'll be for $43.2m
2025/26 - extension salary
2026/27 - extension salary
2027/28 - extension salary

 

120 or 140 extension money, though?

 

With Brown getting over $300 million on his extension, while having won absolutely nothing, you better believe AD’s camp will be asking for the entire amount possible under the current CBA.

 

Exactly

 

oh, i'm sure they'll ask for it. if i were rob, i'd at least ask them to consider some performance/availability incentives.

for example, if AD makes an all nba team, that means he was healthy, and that means he was worth the full max.

 

I expect us to offer him the max but injuries could certainly impact that.

 

The key here is that is "an insane amount". Hopefully AD wins a championship for us this season and makes this easier to justify.

 

i think that was supposed to be the idea, right? if you have a player making 40% of the cap, you should have a harder time rounding out the roster with talent than a team that doesn't. the problem occurs when second-tier players get 40% of the cap. as we've discussed elsewhere, they need to think about tiering the super max in some way. a one-time 3rd team all-nba-er is not the same as a perennial all-nba-er.

 

According to Windy, we should hear something regarding AD's extension this week

 

precisely. i think the hope is that teams can't pay two stars 80% of the cap. and technically, the supermax is 35% i think.

but anyway, the idea was to prevent stuff like what's happening in phx and what happened with us (except that westbrook was worth -17 million instead of 50). you want the big stars spread around instead of concentrated. if they're paid a huge sum of money, maybe that can happen. i actually think they need to go further up on the supermax (with greater restrictions on how it can be used) and lower on the non-super max, if that makes sense. as i've said before, just eliminating maxes could work, too. right now, anyone who's made an allstar game demands a max simply because it's a max. without that ceiling, you'd have to pin your asks to the market.

 

Woike on the upcoming (potential) extension

 

There you have it. Got it done over lunch (based on the time). Nice to see this not drag out.

 

time to start spending a million dollars a year on your body like Bron. Maybe install some new parts n stuff.

The numbers now are just absurd. Hard to even grasp how out of control the numbers are. And yet, some of the future NBA stars making this kind of bank will still go bankrupt.