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lol...and that gm was sean marks.

seriously, that's better than the package we sent for AD, who was 7 years younger at the time.

 

Watch him get traded to Golden State

 

Saw a report yesterday come across the B/R feed that they want a historic package for KD. I get it, they're f***ed. They got 3 stars- superstars and it all went to hell in record time and they lost all their draft picks in the process. The Nets want the moon but that isn't how this works. You're not getting two of a team’s best players plus all their picks for a 34 year old KD. He's still a top?...5? Player. But that's too much at this age. Maybe if he was in his prime but he's not.


So they think KD will be OK trying to compete in the West with just Gobert at his side?

 

brooklyn's kind of embarrassing themselves with this stuff, imo. it's insulting to eveyrone's intelligence to suggest that 34-year old durant should fetch the largest trade return in league history. that's just not how superstar trades have ever worked, particularly for older guys. they're trying to start at our deal for AD and move up, when they should be moving back.

 

.... and coming off ruptured achilles tendon at 33. His game will translate better than say Kobe's or Klay Thompson's but still that injury took something from somewhere, maybe like his defense which was not trending upward as was, and some 1st step offensive explosiveness (guessing ?) plus he's a sensitive burner account social media degenerate.

 

Maybe that is Brooklyn’s gameplan, shop KD everywhere and ask for ridiculous returns that will strip teams of top players. Then you show KD what would be left for him to have as teammates. It worked for Dr. Buss and Kobe. You tell KD that you will continue to shop him during the season and hope that with Kyrie they catch fire and are top contenders in the East. Because the moves that Brooklyn have made this offseason are moves from a team expecting to compete.

 

They have to regardless of who's on the roster. Marks would have made the same moves with or without KD and Kyrie. They don't have their picks so losing does not help them and only makes the competition better. I think the Warren signing is a big indicator that KD is gone. You can't tell me that was his only offer for the minimum. So their pitch had to be PT and to be featured in the offense. Without KD, he can eat all the possessions he wants.

 

LOL OK sure ... young gun. Small young gun at that. Define what "cooked" means. Defending him too? Good luck with that. I suppose you're including Kobe as well?



https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ja-mor...ed-michael-jordan-on-the-court-200227512.html

 

This is a big one! Never made sense why they were penalizing fast breaks, especially when it leads to the biggest highlights of the night.

 

So I was thinking and it would be tough to prove if there's denial from the player, but here is my suggestion to clean some of this up in the next CBA. Any player earning over $25m a year on a multi-year deal has a trade kicker AND a reverse trade kicker. Kicker goes into play when the team trades them. Reverse kicker (Player loses 25% that year) goes into play it the player asks out. If it's a mutual parting, base salary (zero kicker either way) applies.

Example: Dame realizes he doesn't want to be stuck in Portland and regrets the extension there. He maintains leverage because he can still ask to go elsewhere but it's going to cost him. Is one final chance at winning worth him giving up $15m that particular season? Now the organization could do right by him and say, look you stuck with us while we failed you year after year. We're going to waive the kicker, give you your full $ and try to trade you to a team that might actually contend for a 'ship. I think that loyalty play could be interesting to see play out based on my revised CBA rule.

 

I like it. Makes way too much sense. Won't happen because players want it one sided. Probably.

 

That's very good!

 

i don't see a solution that involves verifying intent; way too messy. the second a team invoked it, they become blackballed by agents, imo.

the only answer would be rules restricting trades of players with certain contracts and/or the timing of said trades...but that could backfire on teams, big-time.

the only other thing i can think of is maybe instituting some sort of arbitration process (lol, pop's "trade committee"), which has its own issues, of course.

anyway, we'll see if they come up with something that can work. i just think basketball is so heavily dependent on single players that there's just not a way around this kind of stuff. it's gone on forever, and it's not like anyone's been happy about it.

i take that back--the league was thrilled when we were forced to trade shaq at the end of his prime!

my advice would be for front offices to think more carefully about who they throw their lot in with, btw. bkn should have had their eyes open when they aborted their long-term rebuild to bring on kd and (especially) kyrie. the lakers should have been ready for what lebron brings (and i actually think we were, tbh). the clippers needed to understand that kawhi leonard was going to just shut down after injuries and basically not talk to them about anything ever (and i think they basically did and do).

most guys aren't tim duncan, dirk nowitzki, or steph curry, and nobody should be surprised when they don't act like them.

btw, everyone's clowning lillard and beal for wanting to be lifers for non-glamor franchises whilst gnashing teeth about kd wanting out of a major market.

in sum, bkn knew who they were dealing with and now they're acting shocked by it. you gave the scorpion a ride. nobody's feeling bad for us right now for a similar issue.

 

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/07/19/warriors-ceo-co-owner-joe-lacob-calls-nba-luxury-tax-unfair/

lol, what a shyster. he claims they drafted and developed all their top guys, then when iggy's like "well, factually, no...", he then says "yeah, but everyone said that sucked". sort of...what everyone said is that no other team can afford to play max contract musical chairs with placeholders until one works out. that's the advantage, idiot.

the author of the article is honest about it.

and look, i've said the warriors are a great organization. both can be true: they're a good organization AND they have spending power that basically only two other teams (bkn and the clippers) can boast.

but the luxury tax isn't "unfair", and the only time it has ever kept a team from keeping together its homegrown talent was the small-market okc thunder.

lacob's whining that their 4th max guy--who came purely out of financial advantage--is being viewed as an unfair advantage is silly.

i get similarly annoyed by everyone boasting about the clippers' depth. while i wish we had adopted their model, we couldn't fully afford it anyway. how many wings are they paying 10 million + to?!

 

They have the spending power but use it so wisely. This underrated move on Jamychal is huge. He fits like a glove in a position where they struggle. He will have a great year, a la Otto Porter

 

@LTLakerFan

 

Yeah. He should have signed with Klutch last year. I like Pippen. I like Mac too and think his speed and athleticism likely, not saying for certain, will give him a higher ceiling.

 

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/...s-Joe-Lacob-500K-for-criticizing-17318537.php

 

but again, the huge payroll makes them the likely destination for the best vet mins, too, as they like to go to winners. we pursued otto porter for the minimum, too. hell, we probably had the very best vet min signing in the league last year in monk, but nobody's saying rob's a genius for it. their financial advantage colors everything.

ok that's funny.

 

Fun fact. None of the active NBA players, have ever played a playoff series against the Queens. LOL, what a joke of a franchise.