Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

I share ideas, 4 months apparently wasnt enough to help AD stay healthy, why not a season off every other year

 

So talented but so unavailable, just as advertised when they traded for him. Over all the years I've followed the Lakers I can't remember one significant player so injury prone.

 

ok

 

This is exactly what should happen. AD obviously lands awkwardly because he always falls down. He needs to lose as much weight as possible (meaning extra weight) and also work on core and lower body strength as Cookie said. He has to be able to not be so out of control off of little bumps. Obviously having bodies fall into your legs is hard to avoid injury but a lot can be done. Maybe he is doing all these things and is just really clumsy but he seems to coordinated in other areas. The question I have always had about AD is if he is driven enough to put in the work. Is he a basketball junkie like most of us or is he satisfied? We will know next season. I would always listen to offers in case someone wants to overpay.

 

Never thought about THAT but wow… thats concerning ain’t it

 

but its the manner of the injuries tho

 

Wow, nice one

 

I like b****ing and moaning about decisions I’m not responsible for, so I’ll probably continue that from time to time.

might not present an actual trade proposal because it’s not my job - just like every other fan

and it doesn’t add anything to the forum….



unless……










You add a gif with it. Then we’re all good. I learned that during the “dark years”

 

it's pointless, but i've been consistent: porzingis's injuries are non-contact. literally is hurt from getting out of bed and walking down the street. equating them is ridiculous, imo. when AD is sitting 10 games for unexplained soreness and swelling, we can talk about how they're the same.

not to mention that porzingis missed the entire season prior to the period in question, but i forgot that all things that occurred prior to the past two years don't count in conversations about AD.

 

Fans = Fanatics = Not rational

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I find some of it entertaining, and the rest, you just skip over. But I think it’s not going to happen after knowing our own Fanbase, that’s probably just not very realistic. Might as well enjoy the ride.

 

yeah, it's great fun showing up here for this. it would be ok if it were a discussion and not just a whine-fest. everybody wants to trade AD. fine. for what? that's a discussion.

"to start the rebuild" isn't. how does it start? with what? who's giving what for MR. GLASS? how is that going to make us better next year or two years later or whatever? everyone needs to remember we have no picks in the near future, so being bad is not freaking helpful (i'd argue it basically never is). that has to factor into all suggestions.

i don't get why hoping your best player and franchise's only chance of being competitive in the coming half decade might recover to previous capacity is uncool around here.

yeah, great, we're bad and will be bad forever and it's everyone's fault (but lebron's, i guess?).

guess i wish people would have enjoyed the last title more in that case because this place switched to complain mode almost immediately, and now the title didn't even happen!

 

Ultimately, I don't think we're trading AD or Lebron so it does seem like wasted time. It's hard to even have a discussion about it given how difficult it would be to get enough back for either one of them. The handful of guys you would trade either for aren't going to be available absent some huge shift in events. I don't see Giannis or Jokic pulling a Harden.

And for reasons I've already gone into a few times, I'm not interested in trying to rebuild through the draft for a number of reasons but mainly because
a) recent history shows we were bad at it and
b) rebuilding through the draft is really hard and requires quite a bit of luck.

There are plenty of examples of that throughout sports. That includes us as we got multiple lottery picks and were still stinking it up. We had 3 Number two picks, found multiple good players through late first round and second round picks and were still terrible. Even the most optimistic of us would not project that team we were building was ever going to win the championship.

 

Since injuries are the main topic here though, I'll throw out a guy.

Games played
2017-18 52
2018-19 47
2019-20 63
2020-21 55
2021-22 35

That would be Lonzo Ball's injury history at age 24. Brandon Ingram, also age 24, is better but he's missed some chunks here and there too.

My point here being that we would still be dealing with injuries even if we never got AD just without the championship.

There's just no guarantees in sports. Injuries happen or the Warriors might have rattled off 4 or 5 in a row.

 

That's a good point. It's something the team has been able to capitalize on in the past and could continue to capitalize on in the future if we are at least competitive.

 

yeah, i suppose. i view them as a weird commodity, though. picks alone don't get you much, despite how people generally talk about them. and for good reason. they're often heavily protected, and their actual expected value is really low. something like half the first round usually washes out by the second contract.

so, yeah, they sweeten trades, but to me that's it. just get good players however you can. good players on sensible contracts are more valuable than people say, imo. attach picks to them, and that's how you can upgrade. just one of them won't work.

right. lebron's been mr. glass here, too. but everyone points to him being healthy before and a cyborg and whatever. and he's 37. AD isn't even 30. no reason to believe he can't go back to playing 68 games a year.

i think that was partly tongue-in-cheek, but i agree with you that we still have some advantages. what we learned is that no FAs will come here if we bottom out. that's established. greg f***ing monroe turned us down. to go to detroit or something.

to me, you operate largely over the cap and maintain flexibility, and you never tank unless you're forced into it by injuries. i'm glad the front office didn't fold and give away future picks to appease klutch. as of now, i'm focused on trying to build in the short term around AD. if he gets hurt, he gets hurt. we're not winning if we move our unhealthy dollar for two quarters anyway.