2015 Nba Finals: Gsw = 4 / Lbj = 2

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  1. lakerfan2

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    GS just needs to keep doing what they're doing.

    Limit the amount of iso's for Lebron and double him constantly. Make guys like Delladova be scorers. Play small with stretches of David Lee.
     
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    If Dubs are within 6 going into the 4th they win tonight.
     
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    Interesting stats for Cleveland's playoff run:

    +5.0 with LeBron in 1490 possessions.
    +5.8 without LeBron in 243 possessions.

    So the Cavs have actually done extremely well even when LeBron goes to the bench in these playoffs.

    However, this has not been true for this series. Since they lost both Kyrie and Love, the Cavs have sucked without LeBron.

    -4.6 with LeBron in 432 possessions
    -38.5 without LeBron in 39 possessions

    +33.9 difference.
     
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    Iggy's numbers for these finals:

    +12.6 in 349 possessions
    -7.7 in 117 possessions

    +20.3 difference. Although his +/- numbers aren't as impactful as LeBron's, his team is winning so how much does that factor into the decision?
     
  5. Daloyalfan18-Brandon

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    I will be beyond annoyed if they give Lebron the MVP, especially if the series ends tonight.
     
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    Dirty D will take the shot whenever out of panic if he can't get the ball to James or anyone. Let Schumpert take it upon himself too. Or let them give it to Thompson who takes 10 to 15 seconds figuring what he is going to do.
     
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    Klay has not been the same since his concussion.
     
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    Interesting... I wonder what his numbers are in the playoffs pre and post concussion!
     
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    Yes...that has to be considered. Thompson hasn't been quite as aggressive looking for his own shot. He did well in the first half of Game 2 but has been MIA for the most part since. Meh...it's just a concussion not like bumping your head against a sideline camera.
     
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    With all the attention on the injuries to all the Kang's men, no one is talking about GSW's two best players both fresh off previous round concussions. Curry was not right until the last game himself, and Klay has not been right all series.
     
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    Here are some basic numbers. I think Klay has struggled in general, but his two worst performances were against the Rockets/Cavaliers. Against the Rockets, he had to do much more on defense guarding Harden. I remember that he also struggled in the Grizzlies series until Tony Allen got hurt.

    Playoff numbers up until the concussion (basically playoff numbers before Cavs series):
    19.7 ppg
    56.9 TS%
    45.9 FG%
    42.5 3P%
    2.4 topg

    Playoff numbers after the concussion:
    18.0 ppg
    52.3 TS%
    42.0 FG%
    29.7 3P%
    0.6 topg

    Playoff numbers by series:
    vs Pelicans:
    25.0 ppg
    62.5 TS%
    48.6 FG%
    48.5 3P%
    1.75 topg

    vs Grizzlies:
    17.8 ppg
    57.6 TS%
    47.7 FG%
    46.9 3P%
    3.3 topg

    vs Rockets:
    17.8 ppg
    51.1 TS%
    41.7 FG%
    34.1 3P%
    1.8 topg

    vs Cavaliers:
    18.0 ppg
    52.3 TS%
    42.0 FG%
    29.7 3P%
    0.6 topg
     
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    Alright, LET'S GO GS! Time to put these damn Cavaliers away. Even their fans annoy me...screw them, screw Gilbert, screw that city; kill them GS.
     
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    Beat them in their own home, let's go!
     
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    GS knows the formula. They got this!
     
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    Just want the Warriors to win.
     
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    They actually called an offensive foul on Lebron.
     
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    Lebron finally called for an offensive foul, and I think that was a blocking foul actually too.
     
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    Good gritty defense by the Warriors so far.
     
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    Slow start...
     
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    Really good defense from the Warriors, if only they can make their shots.
     

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