Talen Horton-Tucker Discussion: Growing Pains

if he becomes a "star" in this league while being a laker, he should brand THT into an energy drink, easy sell lol

 

Middle name shoulda been something cool like Norville instead of equally cool Horton to have set him up with the killer initials.

 

I thought that was his middle name too, its actually his last name. Its hyphined.

 

to bring this back a bit: do you guys really think someone is going to try to poison pill THT on us?

i'm a fan--and i said we should just match any offer--but if you're a team with space, do you really commit an average of 20m per on a guy who's barely shown anything. advanced stats don't love him, and his primary weakness (shooting) is punished routinely in the league right now. seems like an incredible gamble to me. again, if someone else presses me, i just bite the bullet. but if he were playing elsewhere, i wouldn't be encouraging my FO to give him that kind of cash.

 

….. and AC just shot and winged himself in his talon.

 

I think on potential, league value could be $10m a year. $12-13 if you're a team like Charlotte who will never attract a top FA, so it's worth a swing. If he gets upwards of $20M, a team is just trying to f*** us.

 

right. that was my point. they'd have to cut off their nose to spite their face, so to speak.

feel like people should have learned when morey signed lin an asik to those contracts, then had to use picks to dump each later. same with tyler johnson's deal (though miami matched it), and he became an albatross contract (they took ryan anderson's corpse back for him).

it's just not a good business. hopefully, the lakers sign him to a 2-3 year MLE deal with a player option on the last year, that way we have his bird rights going forward, and he gets to make some decent money in the interim.

 

When you say MLE deal, you're just talking ballpark numbers, right? Not using the deal itself if Harrell opts out?

 

I dont know how some of these other GMs do it but Ive seen several 2nd rd draft picks sign to 3-4yr deals, I think Tate of Hou got a cheap 3yr deal too for being an undrafted player and yr 2 n 3 are both team option, we shouldve given THT 4 yr special with team opts on yr 3 n 4

 

Well, he wasn't looking ALL that great coming out of college. Rehabbing a foot injury and couldn't do the tryouts if I recall correctly, a little overweight (probably due to that) and as others document not a good shooter in his one year there.

 

you have to sign them using cap space, so it's only available to under cap teams. it's great, though, as you get full bird rights on low-cost contracts usually with team options. but if you sign with exceptions, two-years is all 2nd rounders get. still have early bird and arenas matching rights, though.

 

as it shown u can do team opt on yrs 3 n 4 so risk was very minimal but as per abeer we werent under the cap so wasnt possible i guess but it should be done for all future 2nd picks if its available

 

yes, to clarify, we'd be using early bird rights, which are tied to the MLE (well, actually maxed out at 105% of league average or 175% of current salary, iirc). so same money, different exception.

and whether we can even use our MLE depends on timing, i think, right? or is the taxpayer rule a carryover from the previous year?

 

If I was Charlotte I would do give 20M (if they can). With LaMelo, PJ Washington and Rozier it's a fun team.

The X-Factor of THT is the wingspan. If he develops a respectable shooting and becomes a more consistent scorer and a good defender, he is going to make a lot of money in his career

 

charlotte did pay hayward max, so i guess they might do something this silly as well.