I think most of the concern was how he ended up as our coach but the front office may have stumbled it’s way to a solid coaching staff.
I don’t think not wanting to give this 2 1/2 years, 18 games losing record without James coach, a 5 year contract was stumbling though.
Bro..it was much much much more than that. -Forcing Kidd on Lue and Monty. -Being divided on Monty and Lue as their top candidates and then trying to swing a narrative that they waited out a Monty decision to the Suns so that it would be an unanimous decision on Lue as the only candidate. -Bringing in Vogel on one interview...as an asst coach. I still think Lue/Vogel/Hollins with Kidd as a player consigliere would be a great coaching staff. Anyways, it was messy and there seems to be so residual staining left. Per OC Register: The Lakers then hired Vogel, who arrived under the shakiest circumstances. Vogel had been first contacted only to be an assistant. His introductory press conference was the one eclipsed by Johnson’s latest TV broadside against Pelinka. Vogel was asked to include Jason Kidd, who had tried to promote himself as a head coaching candidate, as an assistant, a suggestion the new coach could hardly resist. Kidd has a well-known reputation for backstage intrigue. The Lakers are so sensitive to suggestions that he will undercut Vogel, they have told press people that Kidd doesn’t want to do interviews, making him their first assistant to shun the press.
There's something new in there? Bottom line they wanted him to accept Kidd, fairly or not. Vogel did. And they wanted to only pay him for 3 years and Lue declined. Again Vogel had enough confidence to accept 3 years with Kidd as an assistant, Lue didn't like it. Water under the bridge.
And they wanted Williams to wait, but he got a great offer and took it. All not that big a deal, all substantially better than our last three coaching hires.
I don’t think that’s what he’s getting at. More showing that Vogel is with the times and using all available information.
I’m not just talking Lue. We’ve had multiple bad coaches in a row and whiffed on our first two choices here. That’s stumbling but luckily Vogel seems to up to the task.
yeah, seems like that's a dividing point. people act like we threw the house at lue and he walked. the lower offer might have meant we weren't that crazy about him--that he was 1a and vogel was 1b. no disagreement on the farces that were the last three head coaching hires, wherein we barely interviewed if at all and nabbed two ill-fitting retreads and one guy with almost no experience. anyway, i like the adjustment after the half to pound them inside. if baynes and kaminsky are going to bomb threes, you need to be dunking on their heads on the other end.
Only 8 minutes for KCP. Thank you! Thought he had some good lineup moves with Rondo out there, seeing how he does next to Bradley and also Caruso.
Yeah. Even if people disagree with Lue, if you look at how we hired coaches as a whole over the last several years, I don't think its unfair to say we were a mess. Vogel's making it work though and that's a credit to him.
I liked it, and what I liked even more was that it worked so they kept going back to it until it didn't. That's good coaching. It was the opposite of our first game of the year where we kept trying to dump it into the post over and over with AD when it wasn't actually working. We got out-coached in that game.
I think he's expanding the playbook. The word was the Lakers didn't get a chance to put a lot of their offense in because of the China trip. Either way, I liked it, too.
Also, as JSM said, big time props to Vogel for pulling KCP out of the mix when he's so obviously been terrible. Luke would have kept trying to make him fit like a square peg in a round hole. KCP playing about 10 minutes in the last two games has been just fine. He just isn't good and Vogel doesn't look like he'll play him just for the politics of him being a Klutch guy. It seems like he'll have to earn his PT and I'm thrilled about that.
