Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

You have a lot of patience. I put the soap box on ignore awhile back.

 

Meanwhile, I won’t reciprocate, when there’s plenty of dimes like this that I’ll miss out on. Btw, aren’t you suppose to migrate to Nawlins forums now? You’d have a better chance at ignoring me from there.

Oh that’s right you can’t read this, but in case I slip your filter, consider the thought.

I can’t help you if you can’t understand the simple difference of having AD play weakside help defense and gobbling up blocked shots and defensive boards as the 4 vs bodying up the strongest opposing player while also being the guy that his wings will drive dribble penetration into as the starting 5.....in the regular season. Body body, attempted block shot, secure the defensive rebound cause your small ball lineup can’t...why do they hate your fast twitch fibers so much, AD? But they won’t listen.

Oh btw since some of you are so good at doing it already, lets also ignore his very public plea about remaining at the 4 during the regular season while we’re at it. Forget the 2020 AD re-up plan, yours is by far better. At least we get a healthy AD and another lottery pick out of it before they start heading to Nawlins along with Lavar’s pops.

 

anyone else besides me feel that AD should just chill til opening night?

 

Bubble wrap his fragile a**.

 

in my opinion. use these last couple of games to have the real starters play for a quarter. get some rhythm together and then let them sit rest of the game

 

How about just the first half and then bubble wrap.

 

Oh but common sense ain’t in, Vog. @ the moment, having his a** out there is what’s in vogue.

Fans demand 30mins @ the 4, 15mins @ the 5 and 3mins on the bench cause that’s enough to keep our playoff hopes alive. Forget that our roster is perceived as deep AF...dude needs to stay out there and earn that check. After all, #CommasNCents!

Come @ me haha...

 

Admit it you just want to play GM. You like none of our 2nd tier bigs and none of our 2nd tier guards. The roster you would have constructed would have been exponentially better. Except you won't put it down 1-15 the actual @vasashi17 rubber meets the hardwood roster and salaries alongside. Nothing but, "I've told you guys what these other options are at these positions.

Well then from those so much better options .... pick YOUR 15 guys and salaries absorbed and assets back and better depth behind AD and Bron with the bigs and the guards and a chance at a ring all wrapped up in one 15 man @vasashi17 roster. Pick 15 guys!! Not coulda done this, coulda done that and any of these options all would have meshed together perfectly and better than the yet to be seen healthy full roster the Lakers picked. Just for s**s and giggles.

 

Dissertation coming up...

 

Can't post gifs anymore (shows up as a picture), when using browser it says "file too big", wth...

 

Of course. Anything and Everything but his 15 guys. It's a little harder when he actually has to put his name on the 15 so we can all see the genius of it. Or tell him nah man, the Lakers roster stacks up better for this season's shot at a ring.

 

my god. AD said he'd play minutes at center, but that he didn't want to drag behemoths up and down the floor each night (i'm paraphrasing). you keep acting like he said something else. nobody, apparently, can help you. i've reposted the actual quotes already in this thread.

this started with you connecting a thumb injury incurred with blocking a shot to the lakers' failure to...i don't know...max out vucevic (seriously, i don't know what you want other than magic back and to not be wrong about last year)?

and even IF AD were to walk because he wants to play zero minutes at center (again: NOT HAPPENING)...fine. anyone who uses him exclusively at the 4 isn't getting his full value (check the stats). what's the point if you can't/don't want do the things you're best at? if javale and dwight eating up 35-40 minutes at center each night isn't enough, let him walk to ny, play next to steven adams or something, and finish 6th because his team can't create or defend in space.

...that doesn't actually address the question...

 

What good will it do? Can we see my 15 on the court to compare to this group?

I’ve given you names plus the guys I would bring back.

I’ve said over and over, I wouldn’t commit 23m of our potential 34m to tier2 SGs. Not to mention the contracts we did offer lock us up (no trade clause and none big enough to minimally aggregate with others to go 3rd max guy hunting with).

It don’t matter the name, once Kawhi was gone and we clearly didn’t go for any other big bag contingency other than DLo, I hold our cap space fluid and gain assets to flip later for a disgruntled guy on max coin. I don’t care if that name is Whiteside in a Miami salary dump or Vuc using our cap to draw him away from Orlando, Green can’t be flipped by himself for a max guy so it needs further aggregation and bodies, but guys with near max coin can be flipped by themselves.

You’re absolutely incorrect about our bigs...I want more. The days of dub/Rox 3ball bulk shooting need to die. Use our big boy length to create a new wave...our wave! Let the league copycat that. CenterS (as in 3 deep) can effectively chase perimeter oriented teams without getting gassed and risking injury. EDIT: @abeer3 I don’t get why you can’t fathom riding a new wave which we would dominate in. Small ball is for suckers.

Bron
AD
Kuz
Whiteside
Boog
Dwight
Noah (after Boog fell)
Melo
WesMathews
Rondo
McConnell
Lance
THT
Cook
AvBrad or McGee (with the room exception)

Recall Whiteside and Josh Richardson were traded from Miami to facilitate a S&t for Butler because they were hardcapped. Mavs were originally part of that deal but with Dragic instead of Whiteside, before they backed out. We take the place of the Mavs and try to get other assets out of Miami (2025 1st rounder) and/or Philly (immediate draft assets). Iggy via the KD DLo s&t was another option.

And if you’re bent off the timeline, use our cap to grease a potential Okc-Rox-Miami 4way for Russ/Cp3 so that we can eat off some of those Rox picks (remember they were ready to give up 4 for Jimmy), Miami’s ‘20-‘23 picks via Okc negotiating amended protections and/or any of the cLip picks Okc grabbed in the George trade. s*** Aquamam could have also been an option with our cap space.

Bottomline: my 15 would show AD he can rely on a 5 to stay at the 4, we gain draft capital we lost in the AD trade and that helps when you combine the big salary we absorbed with our cap to flip for a yet to be seen disgruntled 3rd max guy.

As of right now with this current group, we can’t trade our 2020 1st and we can’t rely on Green alone to get a 3rd max type. We then turn to aggregating salary and can’t even do that without certain player consent. So even if a 3rd max type demands to come to LA, we don’t got the pieces to get it done.

Anyways, this hardly a dissertation on the matter, but it’s disconcerting that it would be frowned upon on a discussion board. Ah, I guess you can always ignore it or go play hookie elsewhere. Class dismissed...

 

Is that the 15? It all fits $ wise for certain for those guys and they would have taken your offers? And within let's say 10 days -2 weeks most after Leonard stiffed us? At least now we have something to look at and compare skills, strengths and weaknesses against the actual 15. Like pulling teeth with you to get it.

 

I have been giving it...many versions actually.

What can’t you get? I’m 3rd max guy hunting. The FO you find infallible was doing the same thing this summer.

Our current roster and collection of assets does not allow us to go 3rd star hunting if anything opens up this year and/or next summer. No matter how badly that 3rd star wants to come here, we don’t got the pieces to make it work in the short term.

 

the draft capital is both hypothetical and unlikely, so it should be ignored.

Anyway, I prefer the current roster.

we’ve got as much as Miami gave for butler to trade should something arise.

I’m not that keen on three stars anyway.

 

It doesn't, but I enjoy reading your responses to the questions...

 

I guess thx for just the partial ignore then. But the cLips (took back Miami 1st with Harkless) and then Okc (got it thru the George deal and then some along with Denver’s 1st for Grant and Houston’s for Russ) did happen, so those hypothetical picks were there for the picking.
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As for a Butler type scenario to pop up, we would need teams desperate for a s&t since they wouldn’t want to lose an asset for nothing, and those same teams would have to be capped out so that assets would be available via the cap apron (ie hardcapped). Also Kuz is a nice piece to trade, but dude’s up for an extension, while JRich (the principle in the Butler deal) was already a young player on a team friendly extension. So actually another Butler type deal is more hypothetical and unlikely. But I guess never say never.

Btw I do like our roster but I would have liked 3stars (or at least a means to adding one later) more. But I do feel the current roster needs tweaks to protect our duo. You think otherwise...but imo playing AD at the 5, should be a matchup scenario solely explored in the postseason and “break in case of emergency” scenarios to secure regular season Ws, cause we have the appropriate center depth, right? Having Bron play extended minutes at the point should solely be exploited in the postseason, cause we have the appropriate playmaker guard depth, right?

I don’t think we do, which is why we get em protection in the regular season to see that thru. Dwight, McGee, Rondo and Caruso all have huge question marks in durability/experience to be proper safety nets for appropriate center depth and playmaking for AD and Bron respectively. Wasted roster spots to Dudz and Daniels and that needs to be addressed at some point imho.