Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

All I heard was that the money doesn't work perfectly with that proposed trade, for whatever reason. May or may not be true. Do keep in mind the Lakers are assuming they're getting Kawhi or a max FA, so things may be dynamic on that front. The stuff about it needing "a lot of work" was my personal opinion because of the salary mismatch, and I do not understand the cap at all.

 

Serious negotiations need to start first. Since Griffin hung up, it may take time again for talks to start up, and this time in a more meaningful way.

-Mr. Rambis

 

It’s concerning that Griffin hung up right away on this. I say that because I think we are all hoping the “final” offer that gets the deal done isn’t too far off from this.

We would likely also include Ingram, and the draft picks in the counter offer are pretty much what’s expected at this point.

If Griff didn’t entertain this at all, it shows his mindset is actually to also get Ingram and Ball in the deal too.

I’m not sure if he concedes and allows us to keep one of the 3 kids.

 

If you were Griffin, would you take that deal? I sure as hell wouldn't.

 

I think a counter of Ingram or Zo, Hart, Wagner, #4, and (2) future 1sts would be a win-win

 

I'd take that over Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and the #14 pick.

 

Is AD a C bag?

 

the one-year S&T has to be KCP, and it can't really be a one-year, right? it would have to be three years with two non-guaranteed years on the back end. problem is we'd have to renounce bird rights to KCP to sign a max, making him ineligible for a S&T of this magnitude, i believe.

in other words, if rob actually proposed that, he doesn't understand the cap. i doubt that, but these are the modern era lakers, so...

i do like countering a laughable offer with another laughable offer, though.

ingram/hart/#4/top 5 protected 2020 pick/2021 pick swap should be enough to top boston or ny's offers. i'd make sure NO knew that offer was on the table before i let them hang up again. if they want lonzo and ingram (or equivalent value), i make them prove they can get that elsewhere.

 

they have memphis's lotto pick either next year or the year after, too. gotta figure that's in their initial offer.

but the deal i outlined above is still better, imo.

 

This has been known before now, but Suns are willing to move 6th pick for a PG.

If Ball's camp is still steadfast about not wanting to go to the Pelicans, this could help move things along as a 3rd team

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254035/Suns-Open-To-Trading-No-6-For-Veteran-Point-Guard

Ball isn't a veteran, but they like him so that trumps that.

 

Plus if this is their ask for AD, I couldn't imagine the ask for a package deal. They'd ask for the statues out front to be included.

 

problem is that i think ball's more valuable than the 6th pick in this draft. i'm guessing NO thinks so, too.

 

that does work Cap wise....as we could've signed a MAX guy and still made this AD trade if Zo n BI are included....Jrue is only at 26mill right now but value wise no way Pelicans are just gona "throw in" Jrue, he's finally showing he's a good player and no longer constantly injured

 

rob/griffin story sound like what we fantasy sports players do lol.....low ball the crap out of the other owner and hope they dumb enough to accept

 

they also lose the certainty of the draft picks. right now, you know the approximate value of the current picks, but once the season starts, it's harder to gauge what the 2020 pick values will be. not to mention that the end of last season was super awkward. why have that hanging over your head when you should be excited to start a new era with zion?

 

i'm confident that we have the best package for a team in NO's position. but you can't know what they want. if they decide to go get a current allstar or more established player like SA and indy did, respectively, maybe we're not the right place.

but to get some high level young talent and picks? we have that. the #4 is huge in that regard, imo. YUGE even.

had it been the 11, i think we'd be having to get closer to godfather offers.