Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

this occurred after the league said they wouldn't interfere with NO's operations. the owners pressured stern, who caved. the rest is the demise of the league's flagship franchise.

 

silver won't, but NO was pressed to ignore the lakers by other owners at the deadline. don't think that will change come summer.

 

They may have, but the lack of deal came down to Boston's offer being perceived around the league as superior, whether or not that is true. If we look at it from a business standpoint, Pelicans are trying to maximize their return on asset. If waiting till the summer helps them increase the return, or at least have another offer on the table to leverage a greater return from someone else, why should they rush? Rich Paul knew this and that's why he explicitly didn't include the C Bags on AD's "list" - and it backfired and pissed the Pelicans off more than anything else.

But I don't think it was really so much a situation of the league being salty as the Pelicans saying - "Look, we have a very good offer coming in the Summer (or so we think). Unless you can blow us away with something that is definitively better than that, we're waiting." Magic tried but we just don't have the pieces to do that right now. He even bluffed that we'll withdraw our offer in the summer and the C Bags offer will go down as a result, but the Pelicans called that bluff. And Davis being under contract means the only risk they take is him suffering a major injury from now until April, which is why they're trying to restrict his MPG.

 

yeah...disagree. high likelihood nobody will even be able to top the offer they turned down from the lakers (celts' picks aren't looking great, knicks have to get pretty lucky to get a high enough pick to turn the tide) this summer. good deal of spite there.

i know if i'm the lakers, i'm not offering that again. that was to get a jumpstart on the new regime. i'm pulling half the offer to start. you know danny ain't opening higher than that.

 

I understand that outlook, Abeer. No doubt it will be hard to go against league wide sentiment, but the owners have to look much better during the summer with the new GM than they did during the deadline.

There were many reports of folks in Nawlins upset Benson never came out with public comments after the trade demand. She also can't really make AD look bad for the way their ship has been run throughout the years. If you look like the spiteful owner, you'll deal with spiteful players.

Obviously I'm biased, but I still think they have to give in to AD's destination demand because we know Klutch agency doesn't really mess around and Benson still has to show appeal towards other players even if those players they trade for are on rookie deals. You don't want another AD situation...so showing spite towards another in a brotherhood like the NBA doesn't go forgotten...and if it does AD Sr will remind y'all.

 

Completely agree with this, no way in my opinion the offer is as high from us this summer, if Kyrie bolts and the Knicks don't get the #1 pick, what else are they going to get?

 

I know most on the board think that the Lakers top offer was better, but the league wide sentiment was that the C Bags had a better offer coming. Also, it helps to have another player on the table anyways, as 2 people bidding against each other is a better situation for the Pelicans than 1. Again, you might disagree, but that's the Pelican's business perspective.

There's also the issue that the NOLA beat writers suggested about Demps being fired and that ownership wanted the new GM to have control over the trade. Again another reason to delay.

 

It really depends on who they hire. The only rumor I saw was the Boston assistant GM. You know damn well he’s gonna send AD to Boston for Jaylen and Rozier. And then you’ll have the media saying how much better they are compared to our players.

 

Woj also reported Griff:

And obviously there's a Bron tie in there.

 

Jackie MacMullan thinks we didn't offer the Pels that much. Zach Lowe also claimed the same.

Pels might've leaked out fake offers to spite us.

 

word was other teams bid. don't know who and what, but i'm sure folks were calling. more importantly, the longer it drags, the worse for them.

i think they missed their chance at a big haul. we'll see.

history hasn't been kind to the last deal from la to NOLA that everyone scoffed at.

 

Does this f*** ever shut up? I I I I I. f***er loves to say I alot, doesnt he?

 

If this is the case then Magic should have used that fact when discussing the AD thing with the team. It doesn't mean they weren't going out in a trade but at the same time guys like Kuz and BI and Zo would at least have that seed planted that just maybe they weren't individually offered at all.

Also now considering we have those 3 on rookie deals for 2 more seasons after this (and 1 more for BI then becomes RFA) makes their going out in a trade not likely if the C Bags want to go all out on AD. Those 3 will cost us 18mil total (pretty damn good for 3rd year Zo & Kuz and 4th year BI) next year and if we add a 32 mil FA or a 38 mil FA we still have 5-11 mil in cap space taking into account Deng's 5 mil and other signed youth. At least it's something besides the room and vet mins.

That's not that bad.

 

If true, that's interesting and really puts me at ease.

I never understood the 5 offer trade submittal. Why would you offer 5 trade offers at the same time and tell them to take their pick. Wouldn't that just destroy your bargaining power?

Let's see...I'll choose the offer that has the most assets. Even if it's shuffling different combinations of the same assets, you choose the one with BI/Zo/picks everytime.

Then once Ball's folks said they wouldn't report in Nawlins and wanted Chicago, NY or Phx...there was silence with LA trying to find a 3rd team. We clearly wanted AD and he wanted us...so not bringing in a 3rd team kind of reveals talks never really advanced....and now ding dong Demps so long.

 

Let's just hope we can get him this summer...

 

So on The Shop...

AD direct quote: "My biggest thing is my parents....my biggest thing is I feel I owe them everything. They sat me down when I made it and told me that you don't owe us anything."



Lakers about to cash that check bruh! Haha

And on cue, right after AD says that, Bron chimes in flattering the f*** out of ADs folks.

He coming fam.

More quotes here...
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26115859/ceo-my-business
...but the parent one stuck with me for obvious reasons. I just don't see how Boston has any chance at him this summer.

Btw, great episode and AD is a real quiet dude. Him and BI would get along great...

#LADw/oBI

 

Jeanie did say this....



But then she said this....



Implying she knows Magic/Klutch didn't leak and the Lakers were pissed at the bad faith negotiations/leak jobs by Demps & company. And even if the Pels wanted to fire Demps and make him the scapegoat for holding onto AD and spiting the process...dude could have been fired in April...instead, he's unceremoniously dumped right after Magic said his piece about bad faith negotiations.

Then there's the revenue sharing...

Take it as you will.

 

so, if we're still tin-foiling, does this mean that perhaps boston "leaked" all the trade offer (fake) details as a means to create an impossible situation for NO to trade? i mean, once fans and other owners saw the house offered, accepting less (which may have been the actual offer) looks really bad, pr-wise.

if so, nice to have woj in your pocket.

 

I mean, you gotta assume the teams involved are in better communication than what gets leaked right?