Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. wallangong

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    Agreed. I think that's exactly what they'll do and when NO accepts an inferior offer from the C bags, we'll still hear how it was the best deal for them to make.
     
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    If AD realy is hell bent on being a Laker, let some other team "rent him" for a season. Preferably C Bags :D
     
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    So we only have to wait until 2020 when LeBron will be turning 36 to get AD, great, I’m sure he’ll be thrilled with that plan. If that’s the reality of the situation then we need to look at plans for all-stars on deals with 1 or 2 years left on their contracts that can be had for a couple or a few of our young guys instead of all of them. We need to remain competitive this season and the next, we can’t afford to waste years of LeBron like that and the Warriors can’t continue to win every single year.
     
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    It’s one thing to say that you don’t like another teams trade offer/players/etc...

    It’s another when you say I’m not picking up your calls and I’m not dealing you to that team. That’s their right I guess, but it’s petty, wrong and should be viewed as inappropriate. But it’s the Lakers being shut out so it’s glossed over.

    When has this happened before with other teams (Lakers not involved)? Because it’s happened three times now in the past 1-2 years to us. Throw in the comments from Pop and the tampering allegations that seemingly come only when the Lakers are involved...

    Lakers glasses on or off this is collusion of the league putting the Lakers in an un-winnable situation, not because the trade offer is subpar, but out of spite. That’s wrong. But it’s the Lakers and no one cares, just like the CP3 trade. Small market teams have the freedom to mess up, throw stones and get the rules in their favor for nothing else other than incompetence.
     
  5. lakerfan2

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    I mean, worst case scenario is we stick to the same plan, we still have Kuz, BI, and Zo and we get a big name in Free Agency next year.

    Hell, maybe Lebron tells Kyrie/KD to sign a 1+1 year deal to try it out. If it doesn't work, they can walk, then after that we get AD.
     
  6. wallangong

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    Okay so we have the one report saying NO wants an All Star player and prospects/picks. If it becomes evident that NO absolutely refuses to deal with LA, then I make a strong, and very public push for Beal. It improves the team now and also eliminates any leverage that NO thinks they have. Let's say we do something like this:

    BI, Zu, KCP and a 1st for Beal

    We could still make a strong offer for AD using Beal as the centerpiece this summer. Right now the Pels think we're desperate to get a deal done this week. Rather than letting the league and media control the narrative, make it clear that we will make alternate moves and STILL have a package to offer in the offseason.
     
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    100%. We really need to get this done by the deadline.
     
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    If I was Demps, I'd leverage trading to the Lakers now to get a "off the record signed deal" with the c-bags with Tatum + Brown and picks. No way in hell i'd wait til Summer without complete undeniable assurance of what i WILL be getting from the C-Bags. Talk is cheap right now when it comes to Ainge.

    Then again, this is assuming the Pels aren't so butt hurt that they don't care and won't trade with the Lakers out of spite to AD.

    Basically if this drags out over the summer, any competent GM or FO would already have a done deal with the C-Bags.

    This pretty much means if this drags to the summer, AD won't be coming to LA....unless Kyrie plays tells Ainge he aint signing.
     
  9. lakerfan2

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    I'd rather take my chances in Free Agency than go for Beal. I like Beal, but he's not a game changer the way a KD, Kyrie, or Klay can be.

    If NOLA was interested in Beal, I would facilitate a three team trade where Beal ends up there and we end up with AD.
     
  10. wallangong

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    I'm not interested in Beal long term. I think it at least puts us in position for a playoff push this year, but we can easily deal him in the offseason. He's having a tremendous year since Wall went down and I'm sure there will be a team that would fill cap space with him on a pretty friendly deal for 2 more years. He's not the end game, but helps us for the next 30 games and might be more valuable in a summer trade than our current pieces.
     
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    I wouldn't want to be stuck trying to move Beal while the Free Agents are being picked up. Teams could decide not to help us and we get stuck with Beal and his contract.

    If we wanted a player to make that type of push without the commitment, I say go after someone like Kemba who's been more prolific.
     
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    All these piece of s*** owners and GMs.

    That's why, when I hear "Western/Eastern Conference GM told ..." as some sort of evidence ... I LOL.
     
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    If we absolutely KNOW he's coming in 2020 regardless of where he's traded, then go after Beal in the offseason with that deal. We'd still have a very formidable team next season with Zo/Beal/Lebron/Kuz/Chandler or whoever. Our cap number in 2020 would be 75 million with Lebron, Beal, Bonga, and Deng. Everyone else on the roster could potentially be free agents if we don't pick up their options. So if we decide to pick up the option on Kuzma, along with cap holds, we'd be at 85 million. With a projected cap of 118 million, we'd be close to a max deal for AD. We could also navigate a sign and trade with with whoever AD ends up with to send them Ball and Wagner with their options picked up, and maybe a pick to try and get AD his full max that way, thereby allowing us to maybe keep Hart.

    AD/Kuzma/Lebron/Beal/Room exception PG and Hart off the bench?
     
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    There's ways around the HS drama of refusing our call. Flood them with calls from the 3rd or 4th teams involved. Make it to where nearly every they take is on our behalf.

    What assclowns
     
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    I'm not even upset anymore; we need another plan. Pelicans aren't doing business with us now or ever; we just need to move on for now.
     
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    So this animosity towards big market teams, and the reluctance to facilitate trades that turn them into superteams . . .

    Can we expect the same rule to apply when Boston comes calling in the summer?

    HAHAHA j/k.
     
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    Real talk



    Yes, this is where we need Rich Paul to apply the squeeze.







    :D

     
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    If the trade isn't made, I think we sign a different max free agent this Summer without giving up anything and roll with our developing core. We are in a great position with options, and we were never expected to contend this year anyways. We're in great shape, and other teams are just jealous.

    When we played great it got our hopes up, but every team has players that miss time. We are barely above .500 now. We are what we are.

    "Maybe I don't have as much power and influence as I think"

    [​IMG]

    I still think this was an unauthorized move by Lebron's camp, and we're might be willing to bend over backwards to make him happy, but not forwards.

    :dwightcrying: #sorrydwight
     
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    Clearly LeBron's camp and their cute little scheme have pissed them off. This is the epitome of what the small market teams fear --- players gaining too much power and big market teams s***ting on them.

    f*** it, let's roll with what we have.
     
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    could try offering Boggie a 1 yr max dollar offer, then when AD is a FA, give him his max and give Boggie the tax payer MLE or find way to get enough cap to give boggie a 20mill per yr deal for a few yrs till we get his bird rights
     
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