Ex-Coach Luke Walton Discussion

Vash, you think Luke is even on say a Del Harris lvl of a coach?

 

That is interesting.

 

didn't they just hire Fizdale? thats some F'd up front office right there

 

@Khmrp Listen bro, I understand the impatience. I understand the desire to push the turbo button on this s***.

But at times, the slow play is worth it. It's interesting you bring up Del Harris, cause if that dude didn't slowly bring Kob along (bringing him off the bench), then maybe Kob doesn't become the killer he became.

You can't deny a person like Kob, but Del did make Kobe hungrier in wanting to prove himself.

That being said, I just don't understand why folks are so eager to get their rocks off. Why trade the youth for 2nd tier talent, when it's possible we could trade them for a distressed 1st tier talent later. Why fire Luke now, when there really isn't an obvious candidate out there and he really hasn't been given the opportunity to see what he's about in the postseason. We all know how the coaching fraternity is. We all know how sensitive Bron is in being labeled a coach-killer. We all know LaVar will use the drama as a jump-off to put his name in the hat.

Why garner that unnecessary attention right now? Instead, let's see what our prized free agent wants next year and give him yet another chip to push into the Lakers pot. If our 2019 max guy needs a coaching change to have him put pen to paper, "thx Luke for your services, but I hope you understand."

I understand we shouldn't waste Bron's prime, but these are the cards we're dealt and if we muck the set, then what happens when that final piece comes down the river to win us the pot. It's worth it to slow play this, especially after we've set ourselves up (ie #2019lan).

 

I guess... he seemed to do fine with SMU players. Larry Brown would coach circles around Mike Dunleavy. If he didn't have the baggage he has, he is better than Popovich and anyone else in the league at present.

 

We have 895 coaches and gm's here on this board. Luke stays at least till the end of the season

 

Right. I don't think he's a bad coach either especially with that roster. Guess we'll see.

 

Is LeBron demanding answers over it again yet?

 

larry brown is a better coach than pop?



brown's problem is that he is terrible at developing young talent. if this was a team full of vets as key pieces then sure, but its not. not to mention brown's old school, abrasive approach doesn't sit well with this generation of NBA players

ask scott skiles about that

 

We are all entitled to our opinions but remember that Popovich was mentored by Larry Brown. Larry Brown brought him into the league... he also cut him I believe twice! Popovich had no coaching experience until LB hired him to serve as an assistant with the Spurs. Here's a great read on the relationship between the two men...

http://www.nba.com/article/2016/11/19/gregg-popovich-passes-larry-brown-all-time-wins

Larry Brown took a Pistons squad and transformed them into champions beating the Lakers 4-1 (still very painful!). Phil was completely outcoached.

LB coached a Sixers team to the Finals that had no business being there. That team was so inferior to the Lakers. If you recall, the one loss in the Finals besmirched what would have been a perfect record in the playoffs.

LB's a brilliant strategist and perfectionist... his fatal flaw was his intolerance for laziness and not playing the right way. He is a tremendous teacher though... If I could learn the game from anyone it would be Larry Brown and Rick Majerus (RIP). As much as I love Phil, Larry Brown is a superior coach. He was a complete coach from offense to defense.

You're right though... he is likely too old. He's a sentimental choice for me because I appreciate the genius he brings to the game. But, us armchair coaches question Luke's rotations and players in certain positions... that would never happen with Brown.

 

The next two games are a must win for Luke, period. Rondo should be coming back in another 2 weeks or so, right? That should help.

As far as his job security? If he gets us to the PO's with this roster, I don't see how you can let him go after the season - if he doesn't make the PO's, he's gone.

 

HUH? So Luke taking this team to playoff is an accomplishment? Man James can take this team to the playoff without a HC IMO

 

I think he will be gone...eventually; but if this team makes the PO's, how are you going to convince Jeannie that he deserves to be fired? Sure, we have James, but I think making the PO's probably buys him another season.

 

I don't think Luke gets fired midseason, thats a PR nightmare and is there really a better replacement out there right now? I think during the offseason the front office will be able to spin his firing better and maybe options will become available then. I think it's playoffs or fired for Luke.

 

We'll make the playoffs...and if we somehow miss it? Luke is as good as gone and he'll deserve it.

 

Its a 10 minute interview, but the main points start at the 2 minute mark within the link:

Bron's usage and ball handling will be just like his minutes: limited.
Magic does "not want to run everything through him cause then its Cleveland all over again and we don't want that"....Bron is intended to play off ball and have the playmakers like Zo'Do create opportunities for him. So memo to Luke/Bron, don't dominate that ball.

Other than that, he is pretty much echoing what most of us have been saying...defense is key, its a new team that needs time to get to know each other and expects the team to be more consistent and round out by January. Magic wants the pace revved up and not intentionally slowed down.

He also regretted the leak of him "admonishing Luke". Wonder who leaked it...

 

Joerger isn't bad tbh.