LABron James Discussion: Olympics MVP

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by therealdeal, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    In a game where both teams scored 140+ points, yes I believe Mamba would have recorded close to a triple-double with 50 points, locking down Derozan on defense, and icing the game with 2 made FT's at the end;)
     
  2. KB24

    KB24 Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    3,159
    Likes Received:
    8,286
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Certified Tax Advisor
    Location:
    Germany
    Offline
    ^Again I agree :KobePoint:....Kobe could have easily had such a night.

    But I'm not talking just one game but their overall game.

    LeBron has been significantly better than Kobe in elimination games through out his career. He has produced some insane stats in those close out games and the playoffs in general. At this point to me he has more than proven to be clutch. The problem is that most people only consider "making baskets" as clutch. LeBron isn't that guy to go and get buckets in isolation plays. He tries to make the right play...good or bad...its just a different style.

    We have to get used to him missing clutch FTs...in particular the last 2 years he has been embarrassingly bad at clutch FTs...in contrast in the same time frame he has been amazingly clutch hitting tough shots at the end of games.
     
    tada and TIME like this.
  3. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  4. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Have to manage his mins better; no other way around it. He sat out of practice a couple of days ago and watched; I'm thinking more of that of and probably during the season at some point.

    First things first, though. Let's start knocking out some wins...
     
  5. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,591
    Likes Received:
    20,201
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Maybe, but what about a 90 point game?



    Forget Derozan.. Lamarcus is our star player FT kryptonite.

    #KobeStansYUNoEverFaultUrGoad

    @Lakeshow85 i agree it starts with the defense and Bron ain't got that juice...but he's no small ball 5 and what Kuz and him are forced to do is criminal to our defense. That 15th roster spot needs to address that.

    That being said, today's game pace has taken off so giving up 110 to a team can still mean we played good defense. We reaching on defense, plus the refs showing no love so that explains us giving up about 130 a game (the free throw disparity had been ridiculous).

    Also as bad as Bron is on that end, you look at what Cleveland is doing defensively this year (dead last) and he led that team's core to the Finals in spite of that.
     
  6. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I give him credit for getting us into OT and wanting to take those FT's, but he choked and lost the game. There's no need to sugarcoat what happened.

    I'm judging him as a Laker and not on his past accolades. Quite frankly, he's been lackluster, especially on defense. I give him a C+ for the past 3 games.

    I'm hoping he'll turn me into a fan, but he hasn't made it easy.
     
    Purp n Gold likes this.
  7. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,584
    Likes Received:
    27,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Easy game by Bron today.
     
  8. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,591
    Likes Received:
    23,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    nice rest for the King. tomorrow crush the joker
     
  9. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Missing layups? He missed 3; and still not knocking down the 3 with regularity yet.

    Outside of that, he was very good.
     
  10. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,591
    Likes Received:
    20,201
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He's still trying to figure out the youngns and how to play best off them.

    Not worried...just keep calibrating, condition yourself into efficient high rate minutes as the season progresses, don't slip up and show bad precedence to the youngns on D and come correct in May.
     
  11. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,788
    Likes Received:
    22,653
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    Seems to be playing at about 3/4 effort. I'm not mad tho. Liked the assists tonight.
     
  12. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,093
    Likes Received:
    60,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    He's deadly with that precise backhand bounce pass down low to cutters like Kuz. Those two are really playing well off one another.
     
  13. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Jesus, I hope you hold everyone on the team to the same standard and none of your relatives.

    When 25/8/8 with over a steal a game is a C+, what the **** is an A?
     
  14. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  15. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,591
    Likes Received:
    20,201
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Well he did have all those extra bricks from the charity strip, layup line and 3pt arc laying around...

    #highlyresourcefulcharacter
     
  16. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    Yeah its weird how many layups he's missed so far this year right at the rim. He's missed more so far this year than I remember seeing him miss in the last 6 years.
     
    JohnnyComeLately2k6, Cookie and TIME like this.
  17. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    One thing I was really encouraged and Pete brought it up on his play by play coverage last night on Twitch was that after that one huge defensive breakdown early in the game where he over helped on Ayton and left Ariza wide open for 3 where he raised his hand afterwards saying my bad to the bench Lebron was great at closing out properly and being in the right spots.

    Lebron has done fine this year when guarding on ball, where he can struggle at times is over helping or weak side coverages. It was the same issues he's had the last few years in CLE.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2018
  18. bfc1125roy

    bfc1125roy - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2017
    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    1,494
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    LeBron is the only player I'm not complaining about. He's played well. Obviously he's going to coast, and not play balls out on defense, but we knew that coming in. Kobe did the same thing in his 16th year.

    Like @therealdeal said, if we're getting 27/8/8 from him, we can't complain. Those are better numbers than almost anyone in the league. And that's not even counting all the defensive attention he attracts to get our guys open looks.
     
  19. bfc1125roy

    bfc1125roy - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2017
    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    1,494
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Yeah he's doubled in the post a few times when maybe it hasn't been needed. Perhaps he doesn't trust our small ball lineups to hold down the fort at the 5, and I don't blame him entirely for thinking that.

    But James isn't the reason we're giving up so many ppg on defense.
     
    JohnnyComeLately2k6 likes this.
  20. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,591
    Likes Received:
    20,201
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I encourage others to watch the most recent episode of Backstage: Lakers.

    He may not have the constant motor on defense and overhelps at times, but dude talks and continues to talk to our young guys on that end and from the bench.

    I had no idea how much of a verbal leader he already is with the youngns. Obviously that's something we can't really experience on a telecast, but that alone earns him minutes on defense cause he almost plays it like a linebacker.

    Granted they showed the Portland game and the home opener, so he's clearly enthusiastic and feeding off the crowd's energy to begin the season. But I was impressed with it and I hope he's just as demonstrative and vocal as the long season progresses.

    Then you add Rondo in there and I hope it rubs off on some of our kids. I've seen Zo physically push his teammates into better defensive positions, but I hope he can learn to be as verbal as our vets.
     

Share This Page