Brandon Ingram Discussion: He Is Who We Thought He Could Be

Last season Beal dropped 51 against Portland in Portland in a win. Set the record for points scored in that arena for an opponent.



He had 13 games in which he shot 10+ threes and he hit on 42.9% of those shots.

He really struggled against Golden State last year, but was excellent against the Thunder and the Rockets (especially the Thunder).

I'm just saying, this guy is legit. If he's our 2nd option, that's a stud right there. He just turned 25 a few days ago, he's younger than Caldwell- Pope. I understand not wanting to trade Ingram for a guy who likely is at best a 2nd option, but we're talking about Ingram like he'd be the 3rd option on a championship level team behind Kawhi and LeBron, so I'm not sure this trade should be so easily dismissed.

 

I'm not undervaluing him at all. We're getting a young All-Star locked into a long-term deal. That's exactly what we should be looking for in a trade with our young players. That's a massive value for Ingram. I'm not saying dump him for an expiring contract and a pick (D'Angelo, Clarkson, Nance). @Savory Griddles is trying to trade Lonzo Ball for freaking Kemba Walker who is worse and is on an expiring contract.

I've watched Brandon Ingram. He looks great for a 20 year old kid and has the makings of a good player.

The Wizards aren't great, but that has little to do with Beal and a lot to do with management and team makeup. They handed out giant contracts to Porter and held on to Gortat too long. Beal meanwhile without John Wall put up really good numbers. Wall only played 41 games last year and Beal still put up 22.6/4.5/4.4 with 1.2 steals. Without Wall in stretches Beal's numbers stayed pretty much steady. He almost always averages 20-25 with 4 assists and 4 rebounds a game while shooting in the mid-high 40s from the field and high 30s from outside.

The way some of you guys are talking, it's like Beal isn't a good player. Beal wasn't really any worse than Paul George last season. We get rid of Deng and bring in a long-term piece that's only 25 and already and All-Star? You'd think I was suggesting we traded for a bag of garbage.

Either way, it is what it is. I'm fine holding on to Ingram. I just think Beal is a better player than he's getting credit for.

 

Being an All-Star is overrated now?

I mean what kind of jumping jacks are you guys really trying to do here to justify wanting Ingram over basically anybody in the league? If the argument now is "a young All-Star is not enough" then there's literally nothing to say anymore.

 

I'll ignore it then. Your entire argument is based off of "this kid is probably going to be better than all those guys one day". I'm giving you actual evidence and you're giving me conjecture. You want to take it personally, you do you. I'm sick of pussyfooting around this. You want to get aggressive about your opinion, feel free, but unless you've got something more than, "just look at his trajectory", I'm going to go ahead and move on.

By the way, Beal at 20: 17.1 points, 3.7 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 1 steal on 42/40/79 on a 44 win team.

At least comparable to Ingram. We'd be lucky if Ingram became Beal. All you guys acting like he's a bum and he's what we hope Ingram can become.

 

On a long-term contract? Fresh off an All-Star season? In a deal where we also dump Luol Deng's contract and have upwards of 25 million to spend next year? Sure. That's definitely not a deal we should just throw away.

There's no real urgency anymore since LeBron is signed, so I'm not in a hurry to make that move, but if it happened I wouldn't be mad about it either. I think the Lakers probably wait at this point until next summer and try to convince a FA to jump, I'm just not sure there's going to be as many FAs available as people assume. I think Kawhi sticks with whatever team finally trades for him. I think Klay stays home. Who else is out there that's going to really move the needle?

My only point in all this was that this trade shouldn't be dismissed as nonsense. It's not sourced, so it's not likely to be true, but a trade that nets us a young All-Star on a guaranteed deal, is something we should be looking at.

 

Hey!

I stand by some of those. I never wanted the 4th year on Deng, I don't think I advocated maxing Parsons... I still like Crabbe. Okafor could have been good if he didn't land in Philly... I stand by Sessions and Bazemore!