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It's nice to see Popovich have to finally eat his overdone, pompous, condescending jokes. I want the Lakers to fleece them into nothingness so he can retire in a couple years and watch the Lakers win multiple titles. All that b****ing and whining when the Lakers make great deals and this coming from those a******* tanking on purpose in 1996 so they could get Tim Duncan. Freakin hypocrites.

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Thanks for handing me a pass....but I told you, stage coaches are no longer relevant. These passes suck.

You're making a whole lot of assumptions into what I said, considering that I have been adamant about not including BI in nearly every scenario. I also am not unrealistically throwing Deng at SA knowing that they are also looking to shed salary. Yet you think I'm game in throwing 9 players plus future picks (plural for 3 OR more....doesn't a couple mean 2? I don't know...I gotta take a remediation math course) hahaha, so I could be talking about more than 11 after all...

Either way, take away what you want from my post. I know what I meant and I don't need to explain it to someone that's trying to interpret it another way.

Like I said, TIME for that appt, papi.

Anyways, we can further discuss how you read my post via PM if you like.

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TIME said: ↑

Ok, I gave you a pass the first two times, but now I gots to take Junior to the woodshed.

This is YOUR scenario from that original post:

Jules = 1 player
BI = 1 player
Kuz = 1 player
Hart = 1 player
Zu = 1 player
TB = 1 player
Future 1sts (plural) = minimum of 2 players
Moe = 1 player
Svi = 1 player
Bonga = 1 player
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Equals = ELEVEN players

I know you whippersnappers are into this #newmath, but I'm thinking that those numbers still add up to ELEVEN.

Oh, and nice job trying to wriggle out with the "not saying that's the package". Might have worked for you too, if you hadn't followed that with

"but at the most this is what we can offer which can compete with any other team's best offer for a rental" which in plain English means that you were willing to offer that much.

I can at least agree with this part of your original post: "Btw, I need remediation in all walks of life, not just math..."
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Vash, I’m siding with Time on this one.

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You're making a whole lot of assumptions into what I said,
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Since I directly quoted your actual post, the only two assumptions I made was that you could add as high as ELEVEN, and that you meant what you actually said. I apologize for being wrong on both counts.

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Vash, I’m siding with Time on this one.

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Jules S&T, BI, Kuz, Hart, Zu, TB, future 1sts, Moe, Svi, Bonga (not saying that's the package, but at the most this is what we can offer which can compete with any other team's best offer for a rental)

Looking at how the narrative has been leverage...I stated that AT THE MOST we have the ability to make a competitive offer that no other team can do for a RENTAL.

And again, I'm NOT SAYING THAT'S THE PACKAGE and I'm not delusional to think the Spurs would take back Deng when they're looking to shed salary (see ownership divorce) and dumping Deng for out of all players...Kawhi. Yet my offer outright would be for NINE players and future picks...okay. Whatever you say brodie.

Forget cataracts, glaucoma, 20/20 vision.....maybe we need to test for dementia.

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Jules S&T, BI, Kuz, Hart, Zu, TB, future 1sts, Moe, Svi, Bonga (not saying that's the package, but at the most this is what we can offer which can compete with any other team's best offer for a rental)

Looking at how the narrative has been leverage...I stated that AT THE MOST we have the ability to make a competitive offer that no other team can do for a RENTAL.

And again, I'm NOT SAYING THAT'S THE PACKAGE and I'm not delusional to think the Spurs would take back Deng when they're looking to shed salary (see ownership divorce) and dumping Deng for out of all players...Kawhi. Yet my offer outright would be for NINE players and future picks...okay. Whatever you say brodie.

Forget cataracts, glaucoma, 20/20 vision.....maybe we need to test for dementia.

#TreatingTheElderlyEquallyIsRespectingThem
#GeriatricsAreRightButTheatricsAreWrong
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Nice job completely ignoring your own math error and what you originally said about those eleven being the most we could offer.

I think this is where you need to...

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I don’t know who this guy is, but I love the way he thinks

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...urs-contract-roster/ry41nxk87vym18crn1ryaiyoe

NBA Trade Rumors: C Bags, Lakers can’t save Spurs from Kawhi Leonard trap

They fell into Tim Duncan in 1997, when an otherwise very good Western Conference team had a ragged season because of an injury to David Robinson, and were gifted the No. 1 pick in the draft. They pulled Avery Johnson off the hoops scrap heap and turned him into a starter, and did that repeatedly for a decade: Bruce Bowen, Stephen Jackson, Gary Neal, Danny Green.

They swiped Manu Ginobili from under the noses of the rest of the league, using the 57th pick to draft him in 1999, after nine second-rounders who never even appeared in an NBA game, and landed Tony Parker with the final first-round pick of the 2001 draft, after the likes of Joe Forte, Jeryl Sasser and Brandon Armstrong.

We’re so accustomed to the Spurs, as a franchise, keeping one step ahead of the other 29 teams that it’s almost unnerving to witness San Antonio in its current state — boxed in, blindsided by an obstinate star and staving off desperation.

Kawhi Leonard, having sat for most of last season with a quad injury that the team felt did not require such tender treatment, has made clear that he wants out of San Antonio, and the Spurs have accepted that fact.

But finding a decent offer for Leonard has already proven thorny. The Spurs entered this process hoping to avoid trading Leonard within the Western Conference, but according to executives around the league, Leonard’s camp has made it clear that he wants to be in Los Angeles, and he has the leverage of hitting free agency next summer. That has left the hands of Gregg Popovich, R.C. Buford and the Spurs brass tied.

San Antonio has engaged in talks with Boston, and the C Bags would appear to be a natural trading partner — they’re a championship contender, in the East and loaded with young assets (Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, two potential 2019 lottery picks).

But sources told Sporting News that the C Bags are approaching the situation with trepidation. They have no intention of trading Tatum whatsoever this offseason, even in a deal for Leonard. The Spurs would want Brown as part of any trade package, but even there, Boston is wavering.

There are a number of reasons for this. First, there is concern about how Leonard, an MVP candidate when healthy, would mesh with Kyrie Irving, who has looked at his spot with the C Bags given the chance to finally lead his own team and escape the shadow of LeBron James. Both players are known to be stubborn — chemistry is a concern.

There is also the reality of Leonard’s impending free agency. The C Bags are, naturally, concerned that Leonard could bolt for Los Angeles after one year with the team. Boston has no interest in giving up Brown for one year of Leonard.

And there are financial realities. As one source told Sporting News, “There’s a limit on how much they’re going to be willing to pay for a team, no matter how good the roster is. There’s a limit on everybody. And eventually, the bill will come due on the players they have.”

C Bags owners have said they’d be willing to pay the luxury tax, but that bill figures to get large — quickly. Yes, the C Bags have a rich deal with their local broadcaster, but they do not own the TD Garden — it’s owned by the Bruins — and that will always put something of a cap on revenues.

If the C Bags were to trade for Leonard, then give new contracts to both him and Irving (who can also be a free agent) next summer, they would find themselves deep into the luxury tax. An estimate of their tax bill for 2019-20 would run well over $100 million, maybe even more than $150 million. The C Bags are a valuable franchise, but that type of annual tax bill would be too much for any team without full revenues on the building in which they play.

The C Bags’ reluctance, then, is understandable. They don’t want to give away young players for a guy who might only be around a year. They also don’t want to land Leonard, then have to pay him a massive salary without knowing for sure how he will fit in with the rest of the team, Irving in particular.

That brings us back to the Lakers, and just how boxed in the Spurs are on this Leonard deal.

One league executive suggested that the Spurs have two choices. They can take the big offer from the Lakers now, which will likely include budding former No. 2 pick Brandon Ingram, and could pave the way for LA to also add LeBron James. Or they could wait a couple weeks until it is obvious that the Lakers are the only credible bidder, and take a skeleton offer from LA.

“The Lakers are feeling some pressure because they’ve got one eye on this and one eye on LeBron,” the executive said. “The Spurs are hoping for a bidding war, but who else is bidding here? There is no war. They need to move on this before [July 1].”

The Spurs, who fleeced the rest of the league repeatedly in the last 20 years, are on the verge of being fleeced for one of the game’s top players. It’s a weird comeuppance for an organization that has been so dignified and respected for so long.
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I don’t know who this guy is, but I love the way he thinks

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...urs-contract-roster/ry41nxk87vym18crn1ryaiyoe
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This is amazing. My hatred for the Spurs still exists.

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You know what would also alleviate defensive pressure off of Lebron. Having a complete team of:

George, Ingram, Kuz, Lebron, Randle, Hart, and company.

I've read through the last 10 pages and at this point I really hope nothing happens between us and Kawhi. I'm really hoping for this. Let's go to war with that core I just listed off which means having to find a suitor for Deng. Keep all our young guys together and is still have a hugely successful off-season.

Why are we complicating this...

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Good article from Darius Soriano

https://www.forumblueandgold.com/2018/06/28/lakers-trade-rumors-spurs-kawhi-leonard/
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That really is a great read!

Lakers, just walk away

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I think it’s not because Lonzo isn’t a transcendent talent but because of LaVar and the circus he brings. Period.

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Good. Don’t budge. Let the C Bags or Sixers overpay.
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Yeah, peobably smart to rule out such a talented player because of a coach that might be there 2 more years tops. Nevermind that he’d fit flawlessly into a system built on ball-movement. Probably smart.

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Good. Next...

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More evidence of the brilliance of LaVar's marketing strategy .... make everyone hate you so f****** much that now it even negatively affects the one and possibly only star in your family going forward. Your younger kids have huge uphill battle to make it now with the bullseyes on them and carrying your 80lb of baggage as part of their lives.

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More evidence of the brilliance of LaVar's marketing strategy .... make everyone hate you so f****** much that now it even negatively affects the one and possibly only star in your family going forward. Your younger kids have huge uphill battle to make it now with the bullseyes on them and carrying your 80lb of baggage as part of their lives.

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Every time I see that gif of him flapping his gums, I just want to punch a kitten! I cannot stand that fool.

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Is Kawhi cleared to play a full season? Is he 100% or is the quad issue chronic?

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Re "Godfather offer"

OT, but I have to vent a little. I'm a pretty big movie fan, and I'm ashamed to admit that I'm 38 years old and I JUST last week got around to watching The Godfather.

He WASN'T making him such a sweet offer that he would obviously accept it. "Can't refuse" means he had a gun literally to the guys head, FORCING him to accept the offer. My entire life, I and almost everyone else has used this quote incorrectly.

If the reported 'Godfather Offer' was movie-accurate, It would be something like: "Tell Beuford either his name or his brains will be on that contract."
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