LABron James Discussion: Olympics MVP

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  1. Savory Griddles

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    It was more of a joke than anything. I realize Lebron will do the same to pretty much anyone he plays.
     
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    Yeah, I knew it was a joke, but it got me thinking about just how much different the numbers were. Surprised that its not much.

    Btw I find it hilarious that the hiring of Fitz makes Bron to NYC more of a reality... Meanwhile their roster still has Bron Besties, Noah & Kanter. Awkwaaaard.
     
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    Rockets not only have wins, they have e-wins!

    Toronto is done. Put a fork in those mentally weak dudes.
     
  4. vasashi17

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    This is the same guy that helped Bron announce he was heading back to the Cavs. He recently did a piece on Houston which, other than the topic itself, was well written.
     
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    The Cavs are not weak, that’s honestly a narrative the media wants us all to believe. When it’s going well Lebron is the GOAT, when it’s going bad his team is weak and he has no help. Reason #2, I don’t want him on the Lakers.:Magic Shaking Head No:
     
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    Sorry the Cavs are indeed weak. This is why they are the 4 seed in the East. Worst team Lebron has had . . . maybe since his earliest days in Cleveland. If they are so good why is he having to average over 40 minutes a game to keep them afloat? He is playing monstrously right now. Not sure what you are watching.
     
  7. therealdeal

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    100% LJ.

    I can't remember the last time I watched a LeBron team that was this bad. No Kyrie, no Wade, no Bosh. The only player worth anything on his team is Love and everything after that is BAD.
     
  8. vasashi17

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    ^^^To add, lets consider that the national attention at the trade deadline is that the Cavs got so much better cause they got younger and LeBron now has a bunch of young guns that can run with him...Bron is at 376 minutes played total in the postseason....which leads not only his Cavs team, but all 16 postseason teams. Hood comes in at 6th with 160 mins, JC at 7th with 153 mins, Hill at 8th with 145 mins and Nance at 9th with a 140 mins. And thanks to a Game 6 shalacking to Indy, those numbers are bit inflated. Essentially the additions that the Cavs made to "help" LeBron advance into the playoffs only put these dudes ahead in minutes played over 2 rookies (Zizic and Osman), a 36 year old journey man in Calderon and a juvenile cheating man in Tristan.

    Now consider that in the last series against Indy, TT, with all the Khloe cheating attention around him and with his daughter being born, had 3 games where he was a healthy scratch. In the 3 games heading up to Game 7, he played a combined 23 mins.

    Add to that how Korver had to recently deal with a death in his family and how Love has to deal with a thumb injury and dealing with his mental health...and holy s*** the Cavs shoulda been 1st round fodder.
     
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    https://www.ocregister.com/2018/05/...ending/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Mark Heisler on Bron to the Lakers rumors:

    Remember the good old days when the river running through Cleveland was best known for catching fire, but at least they still had LeBron?

    Cavaliers fans had another heart-stopping moment last week with LeBron James facing another free agent crossroads and a Game 7 in the first round, before finally getting past the Pacers.

    Happily for the Cavs, they’re in the East, so even in their diminished state as No. 4 seeds, they’re capable of beating the No. 1 Raptors, whom they lead, 2-0, and the No. 2 C Bags without Kyrie Irving. Unhappily the relationship between owner Dan Gilbert and James has frayed to the point that keeping him looks like a long shot.

    The Lakers, consensus favorites in the Bron Derby with their two maximum salary slots, needed a bunch of things to go right to get to his position… a worthy challenge for an organization reeling from years of misadventures (Kobe Bryant’s career-truncating injury; David Stern spiking their Chris Paul trade; the acquisitions of Dwight Howard and Steve Nash; losing Julius Randle for the season in his first game; the Jeanie-Jim Buss split; D’Angelo Russell outing Nick Young; LaVar Ball running his mouth on Luke Walton, et al.)

    — The young players forming the core of a team coming off seasons with loss totals of 55-61-65-56 had to finally be ready to compete.

    Check.

    With Randle, Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma making quantum leaps and Lonzo Ball showing promise, they won 35 games the impressive way, starting 11-27, finishing 24-20.

    — Magic Johnson had to clear two max slots, not just one, since Bron wasn’t coming by himself.

    Check.

    Trading local faves Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr. accomplished that. They may even be able to re-sign Randle in addition if they get Luol Deng’s money off their cap by packaging in a deal with their first-round pick from Cleveland.

    — Events had to play out so that James and Paul George had no better option.

    Check … more or less … since only Bron and George can decide that.

    (I’m assuming Gregg Popovich isn’t trading Kawhi Leonard to the Lakers, come hell or high water. If I’m wrong, Kawhi’s No. 2, or No. 1).

    Hope, if not euphoria, still reigns in Cleveland where James, playing brilliantly at 33, could well carry the Cavs back to the Finals, even if they figure to be roadkill for the Warriors or Rockets.

    Unfortunately for the Cavs, things have gone so far, winning a title might not bring Bron back.

    James returned from Miami in 2014, not because of anything the Cavs did — they didn’t even approach him, instead hiring David Blatt to develop their young players — but because he wanted to come home. Gilbert had only to make the trip to Miami to acknowledge his regret at his screeching rant at Bron’s “cowardly betrayal” in 2010.

    What followed was a three-year honeymoon, chaotic as it was, with the Cavs facing the Warriors in three Finals in a row and in the dramatic zenith of franchise history, coming from 3-1 behind to win in 2016.

    Cleveland got a new, cool nickname—“The Land”–which a rap group invented but James popularized, starting a new fashion trend among NBA cities (“The Town” for Oakland, “The District” for Washington).

    Nevertheless, the relationship between James and Gilbert deteriorated as before as the owner, an all-world meddler continued firing coaches and GMs, several of whom LeBron stood up for afterward. Signaling his displeasure last summer, Bron acknowledged to GQ that he thought Gilbert’s 2010 letter had racist overtones.

    Meanwhile, Kyrie Irving, the sidekick LeBron needed who had hit the title-winning shot in 2016, was asking to be traded, possibly because he didn’t want to be the one left behind if Bron departed in a year.

    What’s remains is modest. The mid-season trades for Clarkson, Nance, George Hill and Rodney Hood were supposed to make them more athletic and better defensively. Only Hill starts, suggesting they don’t see the others as good fits with James.

    Kevin Love, a 20-10 guy when they acquired him in 2014, has devolved over years of role playing. He averaged 11.9 points against the Pacers–the only Cavalier besides LeBron in double figures.

    The Cavaliers have already ducked one cannon ball in the first round in which they lost Game 1 at home to the Pacers by 18 points, sending the internet into a week-long convulsion, alternating between its fondness for forecasting what would happen based on freshly-constructed mathematical models (“analytics”) and becoming hysterical about what did happen.

    The Ringer, Bill Simmons’ site, produced data showing that home teams that had lost Game 1 by 18 or more points had lost the series in 89.9% of the cases.

    Or in other words, “For Once, History Is Not on LeBron’s Side.”

    When the Cavs lost Game 6 in Indiana — by 34 points — everyone went into Possible Farewell Mode, asking James if he would devote any thought to the possibility that Game 7 might be his last as a Cavalier.

    “Naw,” said James. “The thought that if we don’t play well, it will be my last game of the year, that will probably hit my mind but I haven’t thought about that [farewell].”

    Of course, he could go through this process two more times in the next two rounds if the Cavs make it that far.

    Then and only then, we’ll see. For the Lakers, as the guy who fell off a roof was heard to say at every floor, so far, so good.
     
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    The Cavs team is just young and inexperienced, not weak. Last year’s team was weak. And Love, Tristan, and Smith are the main ones on this team that have the experience. The only thing missing off this team is Kyrie, it’s pretty much the same team after that, but now they just young guys in place of the old fossils they had last year.

    After the Heat ran its course, they were saying the same thing about them. Bosh is non-existent, Wade is old, Lebron is amazing and has no help after getting beat by the Spurs. Mind you, this was the same team that had just beat the same Spurs the previous year. They weren’t old then. Why does it shift so quickly with Lebron teams? If he comes here, it’ll be the same thing. In the wins he’ll get all the credit, in the losses Luke and our young guys will get all the blame until Lebron gets them traded and Luke fired.

    The reason why the Cavs have stretches of such trash play is because of the offensive system they run. A similar way less efficient version is run in OKC. It’s predicated on the ball dominant best player running the offense. It’s run through them and they more or less determine what happens in the game. Points, rebounds, assists, are more or less controlled by them. They determine who scores, how many assists they themselves they get, when they score, how they score, and when it’s time to take over. It has gotten Lebron 3 titles and 8 straight finals appearances, so It’s gotten Russ continuous exits in the playoffs. Two ends of the spectrum of ball dominant player offense. Lebron is just better at it of course.

    That’s why when it all goes wonderful, like we saw it run last night against the Raptors people are saying how Lebron is the GOAT, etc. but I guarantee the next time they have a bad stretch, the media is going to blame Lebron’s teammates again, because you know Lebron is going to always get his stats.
     
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    the heisler piece is pure speculation, and not well-written or sourced. i don't think anyone knows what lebron's thinking right now. i actually tend to believe him regarding his focus on winning games. he can afford to wait and see how things shake out before devoting any mental energy to next year.
     
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    They don't have a go to iso playoff scorer like Kiryie. Only the refs can save them from a sweep in the finals.
     
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    OMG best player in the world
     
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    Lol, LeBron just ended the Raptors. Second buzzer beater game winner of this playoffs. I hate on the man for fun all the time, but even I’m not blind, this is one of the best playoff performances through 2 rounds I’ve ever seen.
     
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    Lebron with a buzzer .He's playing out of his mind.
     
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    lol why not double and not put a rook on LBJ ha Casey
     
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    Toronto and Philly need coaching changes this off season. That’ll help both franchises a bunch.
     
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    Finally reaching some of his potential

    “Still a b**** tho”

    — Joakim Noah

    And Lowry must be stronger than I thought to toss Bron down like that LMBO
     
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