Ex-Coach Luke Walton Discussion

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  1. wcsoldier81

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    He's garbage , didn't even call a timeout during the Raptors run in the 2nd QTR
     
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    Nice going there Luke. Let's see if you can alienate all of our core players by ASB...
     
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    luke the coach = luke the player....fools gold, we're the fools
     
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    Not good. At all. For either of them.
     
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  7. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    Toronto has played the 3 youngest teams in the league already.

    Vs Bulls put up 117
    Vs Sixers put up 128
    Vs Lakers put up 101 (shoulda been 99 but we allowed a consolation basket to Saikam with 4 seconds left in the game)

    Even in their loss to GS, they put up 112. The only team that has held them under 100 pts in this young season is SA (no surprise there right?)

    We're a young team with a young coach that just had a pretty significant turnover in the roster over the summer. This is going to take some time folks. But at least we're trying to establish some good habits around here.

    Luke said he yanked the starters in the 3rd and again in the 4th cause of bad transition defense.

    I'm actually okay with that.

    I know it's tough to comprehend how we lost a 17 pt lead so rapidly (of those, 11 pts were lost in the last 3 minutes of the 1st half)..But let me ponder a guess...Maybe it has to do with our transition defense.

    I'm not liking the constant substitutions, but with a young team still trying to figure out how to play with each other, let alone in the NBA for the 1st time...it's growing pains folks. Till we get the talent, this is what we're going to have to live with.

    We got no consistent shooting, so thats on Rob and Magic to go get it. 3/23 from 3 had something to do with the L along with 20+ TOs (with many of them being of the unforced variety). We convert/clean some of that s*** up...We'll be okay, as long as we got good basketball principles to rely on (like valuing defense). And would you look at that...we're not dead last in defense so far.

    IMHO, what Luke does deserve blame for is finding a rotation and stabilizing it. Also I'm largely unimpressed with our half-court sets. There needs to be more movement and since we're young, they should have the juice to run all day. That ball needs to keep moving. That's on Luke, but Zo needs to help set it up as well. Typically I wouldn't expect it out of a rookie who just 20 years old, but Zo has proven he's capable of handling that responsibility.
     
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    subing 5 at a time is not good coaching
     
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    It is if the starters start playing with a sense of urgency. This is one of those Big Picture moves. Cost us the game, but might win us the war.

    or it could be a blunder that has no long term effect and we lost the game because of it.

    Time will tell.

    But they did deserve to be benched. In the end, I think I agree with you. Not good coaching.
     
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    n now u see ingram/walton clash
     
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    This is not looking good and as a "Luke guy" im starting to worry. Magic will fire him next season if he does this stupid s*** over and over again... plus now he argues with Magic's golden boy? Not good.
    Nance out -> Jules in. I would even start Kuz over Ingram right now
     
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    Was just about to ask why BI didnt get more minutes. Tuned in at 650 left in 4th. Refs were bias in their favor for a few no calls IMO and with Derozan knocking down 3 baskets within 2.5 min thats all they seemed to need.

    IMO.. Doesnt seem like a horrible loss vs a good TOR team. You can learn from this one.
     
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    So it looks like BIs lack of minutes and scoring in the time he did have, also KCPs/Brewers BIG lack of scoring for playing 50 min combined and along w/ Ibaka, Siakam (Who seemed to have a career game,continuing the tradition of someone random going off on us lol) shooting 16-20 for 36 points was the key in this loss.

    To me it kinda seems we lost it more than they actually won it.
     
  14. SFGOLDRUSHER

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    Sorry to triple post but Lukes presser replay is on... He wanted to teach a lesson to the starters today. Seemed like based on circumstances i provided above... He was okay taking the L hoping we get REALLY serious to make a legit push to be a playoff team.
     
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    First off, anybody that watched this game would know this:

    Luke cost us this game. Period.

    Where did he cost us this game? When he decided to put Nance, Lopez and KCP back in the game for Randle, Kuz and Hart. The unit we had on the floor was playing phenomenal on both ends and I thought Randle was really killing it once again.

    I'm sorry, but there's NO EXCUSE for this one. Luke said it himself that if you're playing well, you're going to stay on the court. What did Nance do all game? He wasn't in any particular rhythm on either end of the court tonight, but randle was. Lopez, ok he had a decent game but he had been sitting on the bench for a while, and putting him into a game with the flow that it had, it wasn't goin gto be good for him when he's going up against mobile bigs like Siakam and Ibaka.

    Of course Luke took out all of the starters because our starters SUCK! Our bench is the best in the league because literally 3 of them should be starting!!!

    I don't like that Luke benched Lonzo and Ingram though. It wasn't their fault that we were getting beat in transition. Ironically in the presser he's talking about our young guys "learning" from this. Well guess what? It was actually LOPEZ that wasn't getting back in transition you idiot. The young guys kept us in the game. Lonzo needs to be in the game at all times. Putting clarkson back in was a recipe for disaster with the type of game he was having.

    I don't want to give up on Luke but tonighit was the first night i was REALLY upset with Luke. We had a completely winnable game with 6 minutes to go and he decides to go back with the starters instead of letting the unit that got us the lead finish the game? Sorry...inexcusable.

    I thought we LOST this game more than Toronto won. At the very least, I like that we're competitive and i like that teams are finding it tougher to score and tougher to WIN against us this year. If we have a lot of losses this year, I hope they're more like the loss we had tonight versus the loss we had on opening night to the Clippers.
     
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    It wasn't difficult to feel we had to stick with Kuz , Hart and Randle until the end of the game and "just" bring back Lonzo , BI.

    Not only Luke didn't do this the 1st time but once he realized the starters were getting smoked , his decision to bench the whole 1st unit was wrong again .

    No need to bring JC and especially Brewer ( worst wing in transition EVER) back .

    There is nothing about seeing the big picture here , it's just bad coaching . period
     
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    Seems yall completely disregarding doe the fact that BI,KCP and Brewer didnt do s*** offensively and Siakam...seriously i never had heard of him before shoots 8-10 for 16 points lol. Lets see what happens next game we play them....or next game period.

    P.S-Im not saying Luke did make the greatest decisions or disagreeing with yall either. Lets just not freak out for trying to be a teacher and a lil trial by fire... Im not trying to argue with yall either lol, i come in peace. Just good ol glass half full SFGold'.
     
  18. therealdeal

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    I'm beginning to believe he's just not a good coach, especially for a young team. He's trying to establish culture so I understand that there's a bigger picture at times. I understand how that might lead to hockey changes and yelling, but if you're trying to win the game why in the world do you pull Randle at the end there? It makes no sense. He was on a roll and was keeping the game within striking distance.

    He won't get fired until 2018 when we've signed max guys and he gets a chance to coach them, but we may need to keep an eye out for other coaches.
     
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    We got to shoot better on 3s and as a team overall in general.
     
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    Starting to wonder myself if he's not who we thought he was.

    Then again can't have helped with his CL father turning into LVBD and going Dwight Howard .... having kids all over the place. :giggle:
     

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